Relativity Mode

[Greven]

Think about it!

A 2D bot meets a 10D bot! Wow! The 2D bot wouldnt even be able to se the 10D bot... The 10D bots shots will be in 9D! Haha I really like this...

I think I must go to bed now, or else I am going insane!

[Numsgil]

Actually, I suggested a while ago (4 or 5 months ago I think) that if we changed the graphics to openGL, we could implement a 3D version.

Most of the functions would work very similarly if you extend them to the 3D case.  If nothing else it would look cool, and we could have some slightly more interesting screen shots to show people.

[Zelos]

we have relative size, relative speed, relative mass, relative dobbler effect

[Welwordion]

Hmm Greven, explain in detail what you mean with Multidimensional?

Oh and Griz do not lecture me about thinks I know ;P
In a way you lectured me with the same fact that made me think you did not understand the theory.(I meanr it gets shorter from an outer point of reference
in direction of movement)

And Num, stop tricking me with my formulations.
The speed of light can only be reached by particles without mass, so there is no absolute speed" for partcles with mass". Although that was quite a clever trick Num XD.

[Numsgil]

See, you always get confused when you talk about relativity  :wacko:

It'd basically work thusly:  Each bot would need to be given a "clock rate", that can decrease as they approach the maximum speed.

Each bot would become more and more ovular as it goes faster and faster.  But only in the direction of movement.

Each bot may or may not increase in mass as it goes faster and faster.  I'm having trouble finding more than passing references to this.

Everything would be from the point of view of a "stationary" observer, namely us, the computer and user.  This is a valid reference frame since we aren't accelerating.

I see nothing intrinsically wrong with any of the above, but relativity is not my forte.

[PurpleYouko]

What about a random chance for a bot to "quantum tunnel" to a new part of the sim?  :D

[Numsgil]

I don't think so  :D

Let's pretend bots are macroscopic in terms of relativity mode.

[Griz]

Oh and Griz do not lecture me about thinks I know ;P
In a way you lectured me with the same fact that made me think you did not understand the theory.(I meanr it gets shorter from an outer point of reference
in direction of movement)

I wasn't I lecturing you ...
only responding to your assumption/accusation/statement that I did
not understand relativity ... in a manner which I found to be quite unfriendly ...
seeing as you have no idea of my own background or experience.  
remember ... when you point a finger at someone ...
three of your own fingers point back at you.  :P
you are, of course, quite welcome to your own interpretation/perception
of reality ... [it's ALL relative]
all I ask is that you own it and not project it onto me/others ...
you know ... apply the transformations first. ;)

And Num, stop tricking me with my formulations.
The speed of light can only be reached by particles without mass, so there is no absolute speed" for partcles with mass". Although that was quite a clever trick Num XD.

close ... but not quite correct my friend.
theory, speculation, concepts, ideas, formulations ...
are only what they are ...
theory, speculation, concepts, ideas, formulations ...
approximations ... tools we build to help us in our understanding.
but they are only the tools we use to measure/decipher reality ...
not reality itself ...
let us not confuse the map with the territory ...
or the menu for the meal.

so ...
if I tell you that there are indeed particles that do move faster then light ...
will you again accuse me of not knowing what I am speaking about?

there are indeed particles that do travel faster than light.
I have pictures. ;)

~griz~

[PurpleYouko]

But even for a macroscopic object there is still a very tiny chance for quantum tunneling.

Did you know that since matter and energy are completely interchangable in the laws of physics, it is theoretically possible to get a diffraction pattern by firing a bunch of Airbusses through a narrow slit?  :D

(Don't try this at home boys and girls! The mess would be very difficult to clean up)

[Numsgil]

(Don't try this at home boys and girls! The mess would be very difficult to clean up)

Boy, now he tells me  :wacko:

[Numsgil]

The only thing that really gets me would be collisions between bots.

That's where my head implodes, because from my frame of reference, if two bots collide head on each going .99c...

[Griz]

The only thing that really gets me would be collisions between bots.
That's where my head implodes, because from my frame of reference, if two bots collide head on each going .99c...

guess you could set up an experiment ...
gather some empirical evidence.
you and Bots drive, I'll be the independent observer. :lol: hehehe

~griz~

[Numsgil]

Aww, I never get to be the independant observer  :ph43r:

[Greven]

Welwordion

the only thing I mean with multi-dimensional is ... multi-dimensional.
It were meant as a joke, but well we wouldnt even be able to see how an actual 10D bot looks like.

[Numsgil]

Sure we would, we could see whatever bits of it passed through our spatial 3D world.  If time were one of its dimensions, we could see it move about and such.

Of course, time operates slightly different than spatial dimensions.  Being 1 way is a prime example.

Any higher order bot in a 2D bots' world would probably look like a circle of varying radius.