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Saber (F2)(abyaly)07-10-08

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Moonfisher:
Why not just say that you're not allowed to form ties in F2 ? This would be very easy to spot if a bot is breaking the rule, and it would still be possible to implement tie defences so your bot can compete in F1 aswell...
Also I think a grey area rule that sais you can only use "exploits" in F1... so once a dirty trick is deemed too powerfull it's restricted to F1...
And I still think -8 shots need a charge time before being able to fire, or should only contain the part of your DNA you've charged when you fire the shot, or something like that.
Viruses and -8 shots are very similar, and both have the purpose of getting your DNA into someone else. But a virus will take ages to charge just a single gene, and it will be fired in a random direction, it's expensive to fire the virus, and slime will stop it. A -8 shot can be fired instantly containing 32000 pb with no charge time, no added costs, you can aim the shot, it can contain more than one gene, and the only disadvantage is that you need to be closer to the oponent and follow up with mem shots to force reproduction. And mem shots can be blocked by poison, but I think it was something like 200 poison to stop 1 mem shot...
The uses for viruses just seems very narrow compared to raping... I have a hard time imagining anything I could use a virus for in a league fight... I'm sure there's some way it could still be usefull, maybe as a suplement to raping... but still, I much prefered viruses since you had to think about how you where building them, making them as short as possible, nothing was added unless it was nessesary. Now it just seems too easy...
Not saying I have a great idea for fixing this, but IMO something need to be done

abyaly:
Sharefeeders and multibots should be OK in F2, since nothing really extreme is going on. However, bots using ties for super effective killing shouldn't. The difference? .tieloc and .tieval.
There is no tie memory manipulation, venom insertion, or (quick) energy transfer without tieloc and tieval. Tie communication can still occur through tout.

Moonfisher:
I guess you could set it that way... although it creates sort of a grey area... what if a poorly written multibot tends to tie to alge and make them part of the organism sharing energy with it ? How would we even know this was from being poorly written rather than a clever behavior to work around tie feeding ?
Just makes it a litle harder to check if a bot is misusing ties... you would also have to ban mem/venom shots that include .tieloc/.tieval, or you could just have 2 bots cause the oponent to feed you...

There's also the issue that most of the current F2 bots have tie defences in order to be able to compete in F1... one of them being excalibur... one I would hate to see go...

I see the point of having multibots and sharefeeders in F2... but I'm not sure we currently have any of those in F2.
With no tieloc or tieval allowed all the old F2 bots would have to be reviewed. And some may be weaker in F1 without their tie defences...
Maybe there's another way to handle it... that I can't think of...

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