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F3 league

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bacillus:
I think strbody and fdbody should be allowed, else bots get too small in no time.

Numsgil:
Ideally it should work that a F3 bot can fight in F2, in the same way that a F2 bot can fight in F1, so along that line I think it should be simple a scaled down F2.  I would limit a F3 strictly to -1, -6, and shell.  No ties (at all), no viruses, no venom, no poison, no info shots, etc.  All the complexity has to come from navigation and dog fighting and cooperation (if any).    I'd let the bots do whatever internal logic (strbody, fdbody, etc.) they want.  In addition to being easier for newbies to play with, maybe we'll start to see some more bots that cooperate, since the fun attacks like "kill off all veggies with instakill" can't be done.

I know something like animal minimalis would qualify.  There are probably quite a few others, so it wouldn't be hard to set up a small league of existing bots.

bacillus:
What about modifying -1 and -6 shots?

Numsgil:
You mean using shootval to power 'em up with added strength or range?

Sure, I think that's valid.  You pay a lot of energy for the privilege.

Moonfisher:
I think shell and poison are a greay area... I would sugest either none or both in F3...
Either it should be as simple as possible or if shell is added I think poison should be there too.

The whole point is to balance your shell and poison production and to choose your shots according to the oponents shell and poison... so I think those 2 go hand in hand...
Also it's limited what damage you can do with poison...

Also this could make things a litle interesting with people using .shell in their poison to prevent the oponent from regaining shell in a fight or stuff like that...
I also think strbody and fdbody should be in there.

And Eric I got Fruit Flies out on IM... but I hate watching my sim slow down so I put it in an alge as a virus (FlyFruit), it looks like it's managed to infect both VC and seasnake... everything I got in today was infected with Fruit Flies  And the alge that was spreading them is doing ok aswell... funny enough it was one of the test version of the alge that did best while the one I had high hopes for got nowhere...

Also I want to make this clear : Pacifist does not beat Fruit Flies in the new versions of DB (2.43.1L and 2.44). I realize the leagues are being run in an older version... but wanted to say it anyway.... in 2.44 Fruit Flies pwns !

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