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Finaly 3.0 is somewhat out (and stuff)
Botsareus:
--- Quote ---That either species is dying out doesn't make much sense, especially after so few cycles. The answer to why the mutating version can't beat the non mutating version in F1 mode is simple: the mutated version must not be the thing killing off the non mutating version.
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I like that one B)
I mean really look at me , who is this kid big mouthing about revolutionary ideas: that mutation actualy makes bots better, thats why they can beat the robots that do not mutate. (hint: now make mutating robots lose energy artefisialy so they will be worse then non-mutating robots again ;) ) I mean really what planet is this?
Good News: I got lucky this run finaly , I got a bot5g on my hard disk :)
Not so good News:
--- Quote ---the mutated version [you]must not be the thing [/you]killing off the non mutating version.
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The minds of this people , go to love it. Thats why I gave a nice hint so by the next virsion they will find a "fix" to this mutating robots bug , thouse %$ robots...
lol or, hint: lets make thouse %$ robots gain energy artefidialy that way they will never evolve to be more better then themselfs because they will be better then themselfs already...
better one! hint: Lets mess up that $&&^ mutation system even more , that way thouse robots cant evolve to be better then themselfs because they wont be able to.
for slower Db public ( I am having a small sarcasm episote)
Botsareus:
ok I feel better,
Num, So the question then becomes what is killing it off, and why can the mutating version survive it? I think there is no third player here, I think that the mutating robots can beat the non-mutating robots just because the mutating robots addapt to do so.
why can the mutating version survive it? Why did the Dna trasform us to survive the period when there was no longer waste but only photosynthesis and hunting possible?
So I think whats really happening here is that the mutating virsion is addapting to survive its bad offspring or the offspring that evolved to do worse.
Stay tooned for a bot99g or so , witch will finaly beat Din... If there is any more bumbs along the way and if I feal like you guys can help me , I will post the new bugs/laws here.
Btw I did not give away all the rules of my system of evolving bots, There is a rule in the universe that says "History Repeats Itself", there is a solution to this rule as well. B)
Botsareus:
There is some kind of bug/law that says non mutating clone does better then mutating clone in different settings.
If mutating clone has defult mutation rates, non mutating clone does worse then mutating clone in same settings but If mutating clone has mutation rates used by itself from the lest run, non mutating clone does better then mutating clone in same settings.
This the stuff I am still having trouble with, If any one is smart enough to figure out how to go arround this problems...
Numsgil:
It's not a law or a bug, it's just circumstances. Sometimes it will be true, sometimes not. It depends.
Your time span is too small for evolution to really create a strong difference between the two. What you really have is two very similar subspecies. Less than subspecies even. Breed might be a better word.
If you were to keep going on and on, eventually you will have two seperate species, likely the mutated version hunting the unmated version very efficiently.
Try setting the unmutated version as a plant. See what happens, it might make a difference.
But really, like I said before, evolution is too non linear. It does crazy things that don't make sense to us. Evolution is not trying to get 'better'. It's just a mindless system of rules that rewards those who exploit it best.
Botsareus:
So you saying: If I keep the mutation rates and/or change the energy settings, I have to first evolve the mutated bot agenst the unmutated version as a plant.
Tryed it, the plant kills off the robots. Does not help any of the two problems in anyway...
Anyway
--- Quote ---If you were to keep going on and on, eventually you will have two seperate species, likely the mutated version hunting the unmated version very efficiently.
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Hopefully very efficiently enough to take out the tournament bots as well.
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