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Greven:
and the question is: How do you (we) define what junk DNA is?

In the current way DB bots evolve it will sometimes be very difficult to extract the pure DNA without junk....

PurpleYouko:
Or to put it another way

[span style=\'font-size:14pt;line-height:100%\']WHO CARES?[/span]

Botsareus:

--- Quote ---In order for that to work you must have an evolved robot without junk DNA, because coding the same thing takes many more commands in evolved bots than in manually-coded bots.
--- End quote ---

I am evolving robots right now shvartz, using a take from the way you evolve bots , with a few mods... ITS ALL IN THE "shvartz help me out thread" (witch is kinda dead right now exsept for my occasional posts sometimes)

That reminds me , I resantly changed the system to be more user frandly, now it favors bots that take up less cpu time, Before it favored more cpu time because the timer was not synchronized with the simulation , and this a reword timer so imagine what was going on with with slower cycles. Although it is still not sensitive to slow down dew to high populations - thats the beauty of the system:


--- Quote ---' calls main form status bar update , bau sayes: also tweacks auto save to work at the rate of the simulation favoring faster executing robots
Public Sub cyccaption(ByVal num As Single)
Dim enterval As Long
If num > 0 Then
enterval = 30000 / num * 40 / totnvegs '<------ :D
If enterval > 65535 Then enterval = 65535
Timer2.Interval = enterval 'Auto Save , Auto Reword timer
End If
  MDIForm1.infos num, totalrobots, totnvegs, totvegs, SimOpts.TotBorn, SimOpts.TotRunCycle, SimOpts.TotRunTime
End Sub
--- End quote ---


The qustion indeed is: How do (we) define junk dna , thats one of the reasons I "invented" it to check by gene and not by the whole dna, here is a few examples:

cond
5 .eye5 >
5 .eye5 > 'duplicate still costs
start
'...

'or

cond
start
5 .up store
stop
cond
start
5 .aimdx store
stop

'instead of

cond
start
5 .up store
5 .aimdx store
stop

So I desided to scrap doing any calculations for gene definitions at all. (Hence , it works per gene and only takes the code after start)


Anyway Num is right currently this thread is uselss. The only reason I posted it in the "off topic" board is incase I or someone will need it in the future. (I know I needed it at one point and did not know how to properly write the equation)

Botsareus:
( Warning:  :rant: )

PY quote:

--- Quote ---Or to put it another way

WHO CARES?
--- End quote ---

(CosmicRift dead) Moose quote:

--- Quote ---I dont mean to be mean ... but Terminator ... Yankee or noone is gonna take your ideas ... :/ Im sorry. But you need to stop making them ... and do something else ... Sorry ... Im sorta doing this for you ..
--- End quote ---

I just feel like everywere I go people are going to say this...
Please tell me thats not true for this fourm, I gess its the only place I got left
Considering that collage is trying to brainwash me that I am not too sure about my major... and since I am in the seek program I grad in 5 years not 4 , and considering I took a year of to experiment with ai cosepts (including DB) that makes it six years...

As far as the classes they are giving me , I beat my english is getting worse every time I take there class. How would you like to be brain washed that a summory must have a "who" , "what" and a "thesis" and I must use "tranistional words" I swear if she knew how mutch I had to summorise in my head to post here , I would of been in english2 already.

Num here is one for you, they make me do this for math:

--- Quote ---Plot: (3,4]

or

(simplify)
(x^3+2)+(x^2+x) = x^3+x^2+x+2 DUHHHHHHHHHHH!! 
--- End quote ---

( Warning:  :rant: )

PurpleYouko:
I just don't see what your beef is with Junk DNA.

It is all just DNA anyway. Besides which how can you even tell when it is junk and when it isn't?
What possible difference can it make if we charge for it or not?
Why would we want to even bother?
It is just a meaningless and pointless exercise IMO.

Don't take it personally or anything. I just don't plan on wasting my time worrying about it.

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