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DB looks like it is slowly dying
Botsareus:
They used to be 40(F1) and 30(other)
I changed them to 80 and 60 for reasons I outlined above. (Sorry, I need to start posting everything in one post)
But the cool thing is, these buttons now only change the settings. So really, you can have any settings you want now. Anyone up for a pondmode league?
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I had to do something about that for two reasons:
* Main one being that it is hard to catch program crashes if the system runs everything in one process run i.e. no restarts.
* Second reason is that why waste time time moving everything to a specfic folder if you can just pass a path to the system? You are going to create a folder anyway. Now you can have your MB's SS's and others floating around your file system somewhere in nice separate folders.
--- Quote --- (ofc. not all 600 bots are necessarily)
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The changes to the program with chloroplasts are so drastic that I prefer (and will soon) run a tournament league first to get some handle on what robots are actually good now. A little more work for me as I will have to go trough the leagues and download each robot, but I will be happy doing it.
Peter:
Isn't the lower area taken at start not enough to offset the costs of making chloroplasts?
Edit: Is it possible stop DB from popping up every time it restarts?
Botsareus:
--- Quote ---Isn't the lower area taken at start not enough to offset the costs of making chloroplasts?
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I am not worried about the costs, I am worried about the fact that robots are loaded in with zero. They will have to wait to reach 16K to start getting there normal amount, as I did not expend 'special chloroplast settings' to leagues as I want it to be more natural.
--- Quote ---Is it possible stop DB from popping up every time it restarts?
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Thank you for testing it, I was not sure it will work at all. :P
Try this one, hope it works:
Moonfisher:
I actually couldn't get the stepladder tournament to work... not sure what I did wrong. Followed the instructions. It restarts, but doesn't start the stepladder league.
I don't have the source checked out, and not gonna go there at this time. No time for it, and remember how much the global variables in VB6 bugged me last time I had a look at it.
On that other subject, we wouldn't need to keep updating bots all the time, but would be cool there was a default path set, pointing at a folder with the top 30 F1 bots from some date (Wouldn't need to be updated all the time, should just have something).
Basically the first thing I did when I downloaded DB the first time was to start working on an F1 league bot, and I kept running the F1 league in stepladder mode to see how far it would get. When it got beat I would be running it against the bot who beat it, and once I could beat that bot I would go back to running the stepladder, eager to see how far it would make it now.
Like an old school Van Dam movie or something.
For me this had a lot of appeal and I really enjoyed that part. And I think there may be a lot of people who are into programming games who would enjoy this part as well, so would be cool if it was just ready to go. Basically just add your bot and hit some button to run it against the F1 league. (Could be a button bellow the 3 buttons who adjust the settings that simply launches the stepladder league with the bot you have added as the contender.)
Btw, will chloroplast be enabled for the competing bots in F1 mode?
Seems like there would be some endless battles. Basically any bots that amass chloroplast and aren't able to kill the opponent will end up fighting forever. Some fights can take ages already, with endless nrg supply it'll just be endless for some fights. You could enter bots that only run away and defend themselves but never attack, and any bot that can't keep up with it would have an endless match right there already...
(But gonna see how my new version of Fruit Flies does on IM though)
Botsareus:
--- Quote ---It restarts, but doesn't start the stepladder league.
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Give me zip of your robot folder you used. Would not hurt to give me the global.gset file also. I am assuming your settings are default F1 settings. I'll see if I can figure it out.
edit: For now you can try deleting your 'autosaved.gset' and 'safemode.gset' files and see if it works. Program gets grumpy if it was end tasked while trying to setup a league.
--- Quote ---but would be cool there was a default path set, pointing at a folder with the top 30 F1 bots from some date
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I'll consider it for the next time I do a install drop.
--- Quote ---Btw, will chloroplast be enabled for the competing bots in F1 mode?
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Yea, just realized I have to disable them for leagues. Am planning to work on it today actually.
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