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« on: June 21, 2005, 04:46:45 PM »
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Try to add a bunch of useless *.aimdx add 3 sub 4 blablabla , into your "empty genes" , my robots never evolved purly "empty genes" , they never evolved any "conditions" eather exsept for the first gene were they evolved 8 almost identical conditions.

Num , read Endys post in suggestions , it has a lot of "junky robot links" you and PY can use.

Ok Guys, I am waiting for the new source code with some bugs fixed , num will know... If the problem happens again I will post the original and the mutated "junky" robot , and you can put them in F1 mode and see witch one wins for yourselfs. For now I am waiting for the next virsion.

You can find some junky robots in the other threads\\ I give you links , wait up...

http://s9.invisionfree.com/DarwinBots_Foru...ndpost&p=738463

http://s9.invisionfree.com/DarwinBots_Foru...ndpost&p=702091

This files are attached , and are ready to compare to my virsion2 firstbot witch you can find in the bestary:

http://s9.invisionfree.com/DarwinBots_Foru...ndpost&p=630920

PY , I gave this links just now for a reason , look at the "kind" of junk dna this robots use.

Also , the robot must be very simple for you to actualy notice the difference.

I suggest you use the robots spesified in the links.

A bunch of quares thing I am imagining things when they cant even follow ^instructions^ God dam I cant even spell good insults correctly.


It was a joke Guys , Was it fun? I maid up that crap up junk dna.  :D ...............
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 04:48:56 PM »
O yea in the Tech quote here , the links will return 404 bc I was too lazy to copy the links themslefs.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2005, 05:04:11 PM »
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A bunch of quares thing
Yep, I'm a quare and I thing all the time.  Man, I'm the thingiest quare that ever quared a thing.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2005, 05:53:30 PM »
I cant duplicate my own results so , lets conclude that it was a bug in my modifed source code for now.

And I was pissed just now bc you guys maid my stop my smexe simulation and try it out for myself with a fresh download from the server.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2005, 07:43:40 PM »
Now you're just thinging.

Quit being an edet and start being a quare!
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 07:45:14 PM »
Let's all thing a quare!
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2005, 01:15:05 AM »
LOL

OK, maybe it's cause I'm not a native speaker, but I can't figure out what "quare" means...  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:

WTF?  What is it?  :help:
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2005, 01:18:40 AM »
Your guess is as good as mine.

But whatever it is sure loves to thing.  That's probably a good hint.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2005, 09:02:58 AM »
I have been thiging my quares all morning..... Well since I woke up anyway.  :D
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2005, 12:27:04 PM »
lol , ok

Yesturday before I had another nervice brake down I checked it , Two qustions remain:

A. How come my evolution method suddenly produces worse robots , not better robots?

B. How come the first time I checked a week ago , the robots seemed to be better, not worse?

Maybe Its because I modifed the source code to fix some bugs? But this bugs have nothing to do with "free energy"

Anyway , I am sorry for the confusion and this is my own problem yet again , I'll figure it out.

Paul 12:28PM Morning
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2005, 12:45:30 PM »
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A. How come my evolution method suddenly produces worse robots , not better robots?

B. How come the first time I checked a week ago , the robots seemed to be better, not worse?
Evolution is a random process.  Very likely, you're producing worse bots instead of better bots because either:

1.  Your mutation rates are too high.
2.  Your definition of "better" isn't the same definition that's driving the evolution of the bots.

Since it's a random process, the same settings can give you entirely different results, especially if #2 is true.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:56 PM »
I have a feeling its my own bug fixes but I cant figure out why. And I am not sure.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2005, 05:10:37 PM »
Now I understand what was going on: I thought that all the "remove error checking" was causing the program to crash with a fatal error instead of giving a visual basic debug frandly error. So I unchecked them before I started using the source code. It turns out this "advanced optimization checks" simple did "On Error Resume Next" in all the places a possible error of type specified can accrue. This means several things.

A. I was portialy correct that it can crash the program , "On error resume next" is quite unpordictable.

B. All the bugs that I reported are never supposed to happen if this check are turned on.

It also brings up an interseting qustion:

What am I supposed to do if visual basic crashes on me when I debug the program? I gess all I can do is post the robots that might of caused this error.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2005, 10:02:20 PM »
The Hell with it , thouse errors / bugs I was talking about happen anyway but gess what I dont care anymore, why? simple

Bc I just realised that my new evolution method does not produce better bots.

I tryed everything I can think of already....


My computer is to slow to run simulations the way shvartz runs them, wth am I supposed to do?

Its not fear. Its - not - fear!
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2005, 10:07:53 PM »
I mean people tell me never to give up , but this is really pushing it.
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