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MightyPenguin:
I'm not sure about intelligence, but I came up with three criterion for sentience off of the top of my head.

1) The being in question must be capable of abstract thought.
2) The being in question must be able to understand that it exists.
3) The being in question must be able to recognise itself as an individual entity.

Those might be a bit ambiguous...

PurpleYouko:

--- Quote ---In either case it is not us who is making decisions, it is the universe as a whole.
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That is a bit of a Zen way to look at it.  B)

So what you are really saying is that we are all just momentary ripples in river of existence. During  the lifetime of each ripple it is breifly subjected to the illusion of self awareness but it soon merges with the collective conciousness of the river again.
In this there is no life or death, just an unceasing change of the forms of consciousness.

shvarz:

--- Quote ---So what you are really saying is that we are all just momentary ripples in river of existence. During the lifetime of each ripple it is breifly subjected to the illusion of self awareness but it soon merges with the collective conciousness of the river again.
--- End quote ---

I am saying that it is pretty much impossible to tell whether it is true or not.  At least at this point.

MP: regarding your three points:
How are you going to judge your numbers 2 and 3?  Ask the creature?  What if it is programmed to answer whatever you consider to be "correct" answers.

MightyPenguin:

--- Quote ---MP: regarding your three points:
How are you going to judge your numbers 2 and 3?  Ask the creature?  What if it is programmed to answer whatever you consider to be "correct" answers.
--- End quote ---
It would have to be proved beyond resonable doubt. I'm not even going to pretend to know how to do that.

I'm simply saying; you'd have to convince me of those three before I would accept something as sentient. How you choose to prove it is up to you.

I'm going to back out now, before someone proves I'm just a figment of my own imagination.

Damn philosophy.

shvarz:
Well, my point is that the formal proof of intelligence is not possible.  Therefore, you will have to believe that something is intelligent.

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