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Definition of intelligence

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MightyPenguin:

--- Quote ---Well, my point is that the formal proof of intelligence is not possible.  Therefore, you will have to believe that something is intelligent.
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I was just answering the topic title. To be honest with you, I can't be bothered reading posts longer than four lines on this place anymore.

Anonomous Guest Person:
How 'bout this for a definition of intelligence?

"Whatever can, even if it's incapable of showing it, prove this definition illogical is intelligent."

Practical, and not logical at the same time!

Numsgil:
Well, as Schvarz mentioned, we don't even know that each other is intelligent. We just assume so since they seem to be able to communicate in a manner that would lead us to that belief.

So the Turing test may be the only true test of intellegence.  If it seems intelligent, it is intelligent.  Intelligence may be osmething that can only be defined recursively.

Intelligence is anything that appears intelligent to an intelligent creature.  I know I'm intelligent.  All other (okay, most other) humans seem intelligent to me, so they are now defined as such.  If another human encounters something I haven't seen yet and claim it is intelligent, then it too is intelligent.

An interesting idea.

Botsareus:
Thats what I was getting at.

 :D Bau

Numsgil:
Okay I had this idea:

Free will would seem to be either:

1.  An illusion of a deterministic universe -or-
2.  Based in true random quantum events.

'Free will' is basically being able to do something that's unexpected.  If I can predict what you'll do from any set of inputs then you're just a machine.  So this unpredictability may very well come from a true randomness generator - that of quantum probabilities and energy levels.

Or it may be that your head is indeed a finite state machine, but one that changes it's internal probabilities after it gives an output.  That is, psuedorandom, like the way computers generate random numbers.

There may be a third possibility, but I think this is what free will and sentience basically is - a way for the universe to amplify the micro-probabilities that don't have very large macro effects.  So sentience could be seen as the univere's extension of unpredictability.

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