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Offline PurpleYouko

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« on: April 14, 2005, 03:48:59 PM »
Just found that V2.36.4 just keeps right on going after all the robots have died.

Instead of the little popup window, telling me that all robots have died, it just jumps keeps right on going sans robots.

Restarts still work OK though  :D
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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2005, 03:59:49 PM »
In 2.36.4 my computer gets an overflow error before any bots are shown.
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« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2005, 04:04:58 PM »
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in 2,36,4 my cp gets overflow before any bots are shown

Oh crap!  :angry:  Not more problems

What are your settings and robots? You may have a screwed up DNA file.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2005, 04:24:57 PM »
The problem is that veggies become fat bastards (Austin Powers ;) ) and then an overflow error pops up.  They become whales, super massive bastards who are good only for killing ;) (just kidding ;)).

Im using many different bots with the same veggie.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2005, 04:56:37 PM »
you need to cut down on the amount of energy you give them: the new version probably has that "energy/2 bug" fixed, so that if before you were giving them 20, now give them 10.
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2005, 05:12:13 PM »
Actually I think it is the same as before. I haven't actually checked the code yet though.

I am currently running  the sim that you sent me yesterday Shvarz. I had to set the veggie feed rate to 65 to get them to slowly grow.

With that setting, the veggies grew gradually to about 430 then their population crashed. The predators reached about 1600 before they too started to die out. Right now they have around 800 left and the veggies have yet to recover.

(Note: these are Alga Grexa and not Alga Minimalis. Feeding Minimalis at this rate would definitely make "Fat Bastards" pretty quickly)

Actually I bet the problem is that you still have the feed rate set to 50,000 (as it will be in all your old settings files)
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2005, 05:15:44 PM »
I might try evolving Destinatus Preliator in this kind of sim.

I wonder if they would evolve to lose their body building system in favor of lightweight faster bots that could chase down the Grexas more efficiently
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2005, 05:26:41 PM »
I think you gave them too much, PY.  My friction is now up to 5.2 and I give them 57 energy/cycle - they grow and run just fine.

Also, I am not sure what version of Grexa you have - I started to pump up their running speed slowly.  Right now I have it at 13 in gene 2 and at 14 in gene 5.
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2005, 06:07:12 PM »
I disabled the notification that all robots have died because sometimes you want to run simulations with just vegs.  Usually if you're serious about a simulation you have autorestart on anyway.  That was the thinking anyway.

Zelos, sounds exactly like you have your max veg population too high.  Anything above 2000 or something (I forget, I upped it for 2.36.4) will cause an overflow, or invalid form entry, or something like that.

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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2005, 01:12:47 AM »
I use the "deafult" settings and that happen, and they shouldnt get any nrg then
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2005, 01:59:54 AM »
Your default is probably left over from previous version.  So if it is a very old (a week?) version, then it will have the old value of energy for the whole field.  Now each veggie gets its own.  You need to change it in the options manually, otherwise each bot will get whatever the whole field used to get and that will crash the prog.  If you switched from one of the 2.36 versions to the latest ones, then you are still giving your veggies twice as much as it used to - there was a bug that gave veggies only half of what you specified in options.

Hope that clears it up for you.
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