3D!

[Numsgil]

I've spent some time figuring out OpenGL for Visual Basic.  I feel confident that I can add a '3D' mode with camera controls and everything.  The bots then would no longer be 2D creatures.  Alot of possibilites would be opened up.

Such a mode probably wouldn't run very quickly compared to the 2D version.  But I think it would run decently.  I would probably need to implement some more advanced trees and things to keep collision calculation fast.

I imagine that everyone would like to play around in such a mode if it were available, so I guess the real question is what priority should this have?  This is alot of programming.  Alot of the physics would need to be changed to handle 3D where applicable.  Does this come before mebo?

[shvarz]

This is such a huge change, I don't even know what to say... :blink:  :blink:  :blink:

Never thought about this.  First thought - bad idea.  Or a good idea but for a whole different program :)

Dunno....

[Numsgil]

I don't imagine it would replace 2D mode.  It would just be a side mode that you could play with.

[PurpleYouko]

Could be a lot of fun but I wouldn't assign it a very high priority  :unsure:

[AZPaul]

I imagine that everyone would like to play around in such a mode if it were available, so I guess the real question is what priority should this have?

How's 'bout after .sexrepro?

 :rolleyes:

-P

[Zelos]

how about mebo then this

[Light]

I think it should be fairly low priority at the moment, work on implementing the other stuff first

[k0zm0]

So instead of x and y, we would get z axis too?
xpos, ypos, zpos, 3d angle, new eyes or changed eyes, complex movement?
I'm for it, but if you think making 3d only in standard 2d movement, than I say it's crap...

[Zelos]

I agree kozmo, its shall be xyz movements if we have 3D, sadly we cant have 4D :( why didnt we get a universe whit 4Ds :( of course I know it :D

[shvarz]

Actually, it would be pretty awesome to have 3d shapes instead of circles.  Maybe even have different skins - hairy, scaly, naked, scilia sticking out, little eyes rotating - would be funny as hell :)  And it would be a great advertisement tool

Of course, for myself I would turn these off, but I would turn them on to make screenshots or to show it to my buddies.

[MightyPenguin]

Leave it until after you've run out of worthwhile ideas to implement.

[Botsareus]

zelos I have done 4D before use 4th-D as w ,

So if w is close its white , if w is far it is black. Now If you want w to be hard to see if its far away , like the z axis , then make your background black, and put a curve that favors darker shades.

There are other ways to do 4D even 5D , I cant think of them now.
The Problem is our brain maps incoming light as semi-2D , and we only see 3 colors. And that our brain only can handle 2D and 3 colors.

[Numsgil]

Technically it would be 4D since it has time.  If you mean 4 spatial dimensions, it wouldn't be hard to do mathematically, but Bots is right when he says it's very hard to represent on a 2D screen.

You're all right about the xyz axis.  Alot of new sysvars would be needed to get enough information for the bots to even figure out what the heck to do.  The graphics themselves would be minor, it's all the new sysvars that would take time.

MP, I dom't think we'd ever run out of worthwhile ideas.  At some point we have to buckle down and do all the inane ones.

[Zelos]

the mathematic aint hard, but I mean to visual it so we can actual see the bots moveinto the 4th D. that aint possible

[Numsgil]

I wouldn't say impossible.  It would just take some imagination.