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Testlund:
When I have maximum veggies set to 400 I don't want to see 663 veggies on the screen.    :huh:

Griz:

--- Quote ---When I have maximum veggies set to 400 I don't want to see 663 veggies on the screen.    :huh:
--- End quote ---
that's kinda how it works ...
there were some recent threads here in which Nums and PY explained how
veggies reproduce, but I have no idea in what thread.
there are reasons it can end up being close to twice what you set as maximum.  
having to do with  how many bots are set to reproduce in a given cycle ...
iow, if you have 300 bots, which is below your setting of 400 ...
they are ok'd to reproduce ...
so say 250 of them want to reproduce ...
you are going to now get 550 in the next cycle ...
and then no more repros until the pop once more falls below your max
setting of 400.
all you can do is drop that max value down  to something closer to half
what you want it to be, and play with the # of bots in each repro event number.
also, the amount of nrg/cycle you let them have ...
has a lot to do with how much they reproduce.
I try to keep mine low. like 10.

PurpleYouko:
I don't remember where that thread is either so here it is again in the compressed version.

One "cycle" of the program is actually made up of several smaller cycles.

The first couple deal with ties.

Then we have the main cycle.

During this main cycle, robots that are ready to reproduce are "tagged". If the number of veggies is less than the "max" value then ALL veggies that are ready to reproduce will be allowed to. This is the only way that we can be sure that they all get an equal chance since any other kind of threshold limit would favor older bots and stop younger bots from reproducing at all.

After the main cycle, tagged robots reproduce (in a seperate cycle)

Effectively this means that the absolute maximum number of veggies that can be on screen at any one time is twice the value that you set.

You should think of the "max" value, not as a population cap but as a threshold below which ALL veggies may reproduce if they are ready to.

Griz:

--- Quote ---You should think of the "max" value, not as a population cap but as a threshold below which ALL veggies may reproduce if they are ready to.
--- End quote ---
and then there is the 'threshold' the population must be under before they can 'repopulate', yes?
my question then is ... are 'reproduce' and 'repopulate' different events?
it would seem so.

I usually set my max at about half of what I wish to be the hightest # of bots ...
and the threshold at 1 or 2 less than that, # per repro event to 1 ...
to get a somewhat stable population. doesn't always work.

I wonder what would happen if one set 'max #' to say 100 ...
and threshold to a higher number ... say 105 and # per repop event to 1.
would the veggies then only repopulate and never reproduce?
if one isn't mutating them, it wouldn't matter if they didn't 'reproduce'...
and I wonder if the pop would then stay within 100-105?
will have to play with it.

PurpleYouko:
To tell you the truth I have absolutely no idea what the "repop threshold" and "repop event" do.
Those controls were added by Numsgil when he redesigned the GUI. Since then I have had no real reason to go in and mess with the code.
It all seems to work pretty much the same as it did before. The only thing I ever change is max veggies and I still get up to twice that number on the screen.

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