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Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Old Henk on October 29, 2005, 05:57:46 AM
:Birthday:  :party:

59? getting old, eh?  :P
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Greven on October 29, 2005, 06:08:52 AM
Yes Happy B'day to you....

"Tillykke med fødselsdagen, Griz", as we say in danish!
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 07:10:46 AM
persinaly I dont belive its his birthday, he is ismply to old to have interest in things like this then. and if he faked his age he will most likly fake his bday aswell
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Old Henk on October 29, 2005, 07:51:12 AM
Hey, some older people are still cool! :)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 09:15:29 AM
maybe, but 59 is just to much, he could be my grandpa
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 29, 2005, 09:42:58 AM
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maybe, but 59 is just to much, he could be my grandpa
say hi to your grandma for me. ...
it's been a long time. :evil:

friends who know me say I am just a 10 year old ...
with 49 years of experience.
yup.

actually ...
I never expected to live this long ...
and having done some of the things I've done ...
probably shouldn't have.
but ...
like a cat with nine lives ...
here I am. ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 10:05:05 AM
I dont belive you for 5 öre
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 29, 2005, 10:07:13 AM
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persinaly I dont belive its his birthday, he is ismply to old to have interest in things like this then. and if he faked his age he will most likly fake his bday aswell
I've been interested in things like this since before there WERE things like this! ;)

way back then ...
Conway's Life was thought to be ALife ...
which of course it isn't ...
but it certainly sparked people's interest in such things.
I first heard/read about it via reading Martin Gardner ...
in a great column he used to write in Scientific American.
this was before most of you scurvy nubs were even born ...;)
back when I just got out of school and was qualifying as a
nuclear reactor operator.
[and when Scientific  American was a good mag!]

all of us were interested in such things ...
and had some great brainstorming sessions that would go
all night long!
but not only did we not have computers ...
one could barely afford an HP calculator back then!
you can buy a computer today for what you would have to
pay for a 'scientific' calculator in 1970.
hard to play ALife on a sliderule ...
but we still played with the ideas ...
and used to actually plot out by hand ...
the progressing generations in Conway's Life ...
looking for new 'gliders'. it was fascinating!!!
[still is] ;)

it took the computer before we could actually 'see'
or be provided with what the Madelbrot set 'looked' like.
prior to that ... visualizing it was just an abstract thing ...
an idea one had to hold in one's head ...
after all ... irrational numbers aren't very rational are they?

so I have always been jazzed on computers ...
used as a tool with which one can visualize math ...
and render these absract ideas as graphics.
now ... everyone can 'see' them.

you 'youngin's' these daze ...
are all spoiled. :D hehehe
"why ...back in my day ...
we had to walk barefoot thru 3 foot of snow just to
get to the store to buy another 512MB of RAM ......
only to find out ...
no such thing had yet been invented." ;)

for the non-believers ...
here's some pictures.
of course they may be faked as well.
(the one with the polar bears is of course!)
but why would I fake them to make me old ... and not young. ;)
http://community.webshots.com/user/objack2 (http://community.webshots.com/user/objack2)

~griz~
[ie ... old, grey, grizzled, silverback]
aka outback jack
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 10:36:19 AM
so ure saying ure really old as wolverine/dumbledore then?
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 29, 2005, 10:40:55 AM
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:Birthday:  :party:

59? getting old, eh?  :P
yup!
beats the heck out of the alternative!!! ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 10:50:48 AM
man, call the arkeoligiets, we have a man from the stone age among us
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 29, 2005, 10:56:52 AM
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man, call the arkeoligiets, we have a man from the stone age among us
you should hope to get so old .... :P

if you're nice ...
I may reveal some of my many secrets. ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 29, 2005, 11:42:31 AM
have anyone of you ever watched justice league?
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Greven on October 30, 2005, 11:47:16 AM
Zelos, why are you so skeptic...??? PY is around 40. Why should anyone, and even with a scientific background, loose interest on certain areas, just because they got older??? Von Neuwman, Turing, Stanislaw Ulam, all the great theorectical minds back in the 40-50's (which laied the ground for artificial life), were not young lads like you and me, that suddenly invented some abstract machines! Well I really dont understand you Zelos.
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 30, 2005, 12:07:16 PM
why im skeptic? thats my nature, I skeptice anything that doesnt seem possible. 59? comon he is ready to stop working and be like those old ppl who just complain on us young ppl like "in my days we didnt talk to old ppl like you" while we answer "sorry granny but this is my days and we do it, so buzz off". for moder nature he is like trash (dont take it persinal) he going out for and is bieng wiped out just to live room for us young ones. aswell as we are gonna be when we grow old, man I dont wanna be a slow senil old man.
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Greven on October 30, 2005, 12:21:09 PM
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why im skeptic? thats my nature, I skeptice anything that doesnt seem possible. 59? comon he is ready to stop working and be like those old ppl who just complain on us young ppl like "in my days we didnt talk to old ppl like you" while we answer "sorry granny but this is my days and we do it, so buzz off". for moder nature he is like trash (dont take it persinal) he going out for and is bieng wiped out just to live room for us young ones. aswell as we are gonna be when we grow old, man I dont wanna be a slow senil old man.
Holy cow, and you think I sound like Hitler???

Maybe in Sweden you have such thoughts about elderly people, but not in Denmark. Actually I think it is rather cool. Like Griz him self said, you could learn something from him. Remember knowledge and wisdom doesnt fall down from the trees. Really I dont understand you... By the way, can you tell me why mother-nature, has equiped us with such a long lifespan... Maybe it is becuase, they (elderly people) actually have a positive effect on the fitness of the human race.

They are a great resource of knowledge, wisdom and experince... That all younger constribute from. Even more, they have built the society you live in. They are the reason that you dont live in caves ;), they are the reason that you live at all.

Maybe we should setup some koncentration camps and gas them with cyclon B, so we get ride of this menace, just like your ancestors did... ;)

Og tag dig så sammen Zelos, du er en skamplet på det skandinaviske landkort og for vores samfunds type.
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: shvarz on October 30, 2005, 12:35:38 PM
Happy birthday, Griz!
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 30, 2005, 12:37:06 PM
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why im skeptic? thats my nature, I skeptice anything that doesnt seem possible. 59? comon he is ready to stop working and be like those old ppl who just complain on us young ppl like "in my days we didnt talk to old ppl like you" while we answer "sorry granny but this is my days and we do it, so buzz off". for moder nature he is like trash (dont take it persinal) he going out for and is bieng wiped out just to live room for us young ones. aswell as we are gonna be when we grow old, man I dont wanna be a slow senil old man.
hehehe ;)

have you never heard the saying:
"age and cunning will overcome foolish youth every time" ...
or something to that effect.
it's true ...
I didn't get to be this old being no fool! :D
I imagine as a survivalist in the bush ...
I'll still outlast most. ;)
"wilderness" is a nonsense term that 'civilized' ... 'city' folks
throw around ... those who are fearfull of what they don't understand.
[as they should be]
it's not at all wild/dangerous to me ...
it's my home.
ma nature has been my guru since day one.


btw ...
a healthy skepticism is a very good thing ...
note: that's a very different thing than being cynical ...
cynicism is a loser's game ...
but it's always good to question ...
esp authority ... any authority ... always.
see for yourself.
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 30, 2005, 01:46:15 PM
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They are a great resource of knowledge, wisdom and experince... That all younger constribute from. Even more, they have built the society you live in. They are the reason that you dont live in caves wink.gif, they are the reason that you live at all.

anyone in the science fields should be familiar with this phrase attributed to Newton ...
"we stand on the shoulders of giants".
we certainly learned that when I was going to school ...
and I still love reading about those amazing physisits like einstein, bohr, heisenberg,
planck, pauli, dirac, herrigel ... well, on and on they go ...
and that isn't even include more moder day heros of mine ...
like feynman and dyson ... all kinds of giants out there. ;)
and I also saw the same thing outside of school ... in real life ...
and learned so much from my grandfathers and grandmothers ...
and also father an mother ...
and I value all they so freely gave.
I've always loved sitting and talking with 'oldtimers' ...
 
that reminds me of another saying ...
"the more I advance in age  ...
the more I discover how much more intellegent my parents become." ;)

sure ... they get set in their ways ...
but I'll take experience any day over 'knowledge'.
knowledge  is about a 'head' thing ...
experience has to do with being alive. ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 30, 2005, 01:49:46 PM
reason why we live twice aslong as we should:
1: we are social
2: we take care of out children, if a species do that their life is expanded
3: we have a language and a possibility to learn, that makes it possible to learn from older (luckely not as much as in the past) and then they need to be alive, if they are dead what information can they give?

we dont think that in sweden, persinaly I dont feel like im swedish, im europen
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 30, 2005, 02:50:43 PM
here's a pic I like ... so I kept it.
stashed it here:
http://www.darwinbots.com/WikiManual/image.../Braintrust.JPG (http://www.darwinbots.com/WikiManual/images/9/97/Braintrust.JPG)

how would you like to have been in this class ...
and been graded on the cruve. :D lol
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Zelos on October 30, 2005, 02:52:06 PM
the oinly one I reconize is albert einstein
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Numsgil on October 30, 2005, 02:52:53 PM
Happy Birthday.  I'm sure your old, nevermind what Zelos says.

Yep, nice and ooooooollllllddddddd. ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 30, 2005, 03:17:35 PM
was it not Numsgil, who on Oct 30 2005, 03:52 PM wrote:
Happy Birthday.  I'm sure your (-5 sp) old, nevermind what Zelos says.  

Yep, nice and ooooooollllllddddddd. ;)

~~~
yeah ...
at least I didn't flunk out of college for my spelling. :P
I still teach technical report writing, too ...
[get on me for not capatilizing will ya!]:D  hehehe

ha!
like I told him ...
you sould hope  to ever get so old!
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Numsgil on October 30, 2005, 03:20:23 PM
Ahh, you got me ;)

I only catch the your/you're about 60% of the time.

same with effect/affect and things like that.
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Griz on October 30, 2005, 03:23:28 PM
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Ahh, you got me ;)

I only catch the your/you're about 60% of the time.

same with effect/affect and things like that.
I don't really care all that much ...
as long as I understand the message.
I mean if I can understand all these eurotrash dudes here ... ;) LOL (a joke boyz, just a joke)

just felt like messing' with ya today. ;)
Title: Happy Birthday Griz!
Post by: Numsgil on October 30, 2005, 03:27:59 PM
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I mean if I can understand all these eurotrash dudes here ... ;) LOL (a joke boyz, just a joke)
Yeah, PY should really learn to speak better  :lol: