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Title: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 25, 2014, 03:19:51 PM

So I thought I'd try run some rounds of first species to die gets eliminated, with 10 species plus algae, 30 bots per species, 30000 starting energy each and... F1 settings.

I made a huge mistake.

(http://i.imgur.com/LdK5VNh.png)

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 25, 2014, 03:23:11 PM

It gets (slowly) worse...

(http://i.imgur.com/A52YSZE.png)

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 25, 2014, 03:31:46 PM

The first entrants are:

Fruit Flies v0.21
Etch Mk II
EyeOfTheBeholder
Detonator v1.2
Callidus
Locust
Martian Tank 3
Catapiller
Multiply4
Blue on blue

Plus Alga_Minimalis_Chloroplastus as veggie.

First one out is Blue on blue on cycle 65. Fruit Flies and Etch are way ahead with more than a thousand each, then there's a pack with EyeOfTheBeholder, Detonator, Callidus, Locust and Martian Tank 3. Catapiller and Multiply4 are below 10 units already.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 25, 2014, 03:38:46 PM

Multiply4 is out on cycle 91, and all bots except Fruit Flies, Etch and EyeOfTheBeholder are now under threat.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: Botsareus on October 25, 2014, 05:01:09 PM

See Maca, it is not too bad. Maybe you will actually start taking me seriously.  :)

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 11:44:50 AM

I had to restart the round, I forgot to set algae to repopulate. :P

New round, 5 bots each, 5K energy. F1 settings.

Fruit Flies remained comfortably in the +1000. Etch Mk II and EyeOfTheBeholder held for more than a hundred cycles, but not much longer.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	1	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
1	1	Etch Mk II
2	1	EyeOfTheBeholder
3	1	Callidus
4	1	Locust
5	1	Detonator v1.2
6	1	Catapiller
7	1	Blue on blue
8	1	Martian Tank 3
9	1	Multiply4

I'm going to add up the positions, pick the 8 lowest scores and add two new bots each round. (x) is the number of rounds played by that bot.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 12:14:26 PM

Round 2:

Similar run, except Quickdraw held a draw with 100 units versus a couple thousand Fruit Flies.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	2	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	1	Quickdraw
4	2	EyeOfTheBeholder
4	2	Etch Mk II
9	2	Detonator v1.2
8	2	Callidus
6	1	The One
13	2	Catapiller
12	2	Locust
16	2	Blue on blue

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	2	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	1	Quickdraw
4	2	EyeOfTheBeholder
4	2	Etch Mk II
6	1	The One
8	2	Callidus
8	1	Martian Tank 3
9	2	Detonator v1.2
9	1	Multiply4
12	2	Locust
13	2	Catapiller
16	2	Blue on blue

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 12:29:56 PM

Round 3:

The new bots this round didn't get far. Fruit Flies vs Quick Draw ratio dropped from 20:1 to 6:1. EOTB barely outlasted Callidus.

New bots from the F1 bestiary next.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	3	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	2	Quickdraw
6	3	EyeOfTheBeholder
11	3	Callidus
8	3	Etch Mk II
11	2	The One
15	3	Detonator v1.2
7	1	Occura Amplificis
8	1	Reaper
18	2	Martian Tank 3

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	3	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	2	Quickdraw
6	3	EyeOfTheBeholder
7	1	Occura Amplificis
8	3	Etch Mk II
8	1	Reaper
9	1	Multiply4
11	3	Callidus
11	2	The One
12	2	Locust
13	2	Catapiller
15	3	Detonator v1.2
16	2	Blue on blue
18	2	Martian Tank 3

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: Botsareus on October 26, 2014, 01:00:30 PM

Apparently Maca has a monster CPU. Maca I would love to see the source code for your little experiment, as I highly doubt you are doing this manually.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 01:05:48 PM

Doing it manually, but I stop as soon as Fruit Flies and Quickdraw finish killing everything else and stabilize, which is very quickly. All other bots are dead by cycle 200.

It helps that the Populations graph shows the bots in the order of extinction.

Round 4:

Multiply4 had it rough on its comeback, Callidus struggled and goes to the freezer. Occura started strong and managed to steal fourth from Etch. Same top 3 with Eye barely sneaking past 200 cycles.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	4	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	3	Quickdraw
8	4	EyeOfTheBeholder
10	2	Occura Amplificis
12	4	Etch Mk II
13	2	Reaper
6	1	Republican Wasp
18	4	Callidus
8	1	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
18	2	Multiply4

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	4	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	3	Quickdraw
6	1	Republican Wasp
8	4	EyeOfTheBeholder
8	1	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
10	2	Occura Amplificis
11	2	The One
12	4	Etch Mk II
12	2	Locust
13	2	Catapiller
13	2	Reaper
15	3	Detonator v1.2
16	2	Blue on blue
18	4	Callidus
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 01:12:14 PM

In case it wasn't clear, I'm entering 10 species plus algae in a single sim each round, it's not a 1 vs 1 league.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: Botsareus on October 26, 2014, 01:34:17 PM

I know Maca, you are doing it the old school way.  :) I was just wondering if you where able to hook up an algorithm. I personally get annoyed with doing things manually reasonably quickly.

Sweet results though. Keep up the good work.  :)

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 01:47:35 PM

I do a lot of coding against API services for a living, so I'd love a lot to hook the DB core to an external script -- but I've never looked into it.

Round 5:

New bots died quickly. Eye had a terrible start and will have to rest. Etch did well, but couldn't avoid the freezer. Republican Wasp is holding ground.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	5	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	4	Quickdraw
14	5	Etch Mk II
9	2	Republican Wasp
14	3	Occura Amplificis
16	3	The One
14	5	EyeOfTheBeholder
7	1	TriggerBot
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
9	1	Ann

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	5	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	4	Quickdraw
7	1	TriggerBot
9	2	Republican Wasp
9	1	Ann
12	2	Locust
13	2	Catapiller
13	2	Reaper
14	5	Etch Mk II
14	5	EyeOfTheBeholder
14	3	Occura Amplificis
15	3	Detonator v1.2
16	3	The One
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
16	2	Blue on blue
18	4	Callidus
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 02:09:35 PM

Round 6:

Aggressive Dwarfs started really strong, almost matching Fruit Flies in numbers, but they burnt all their energy away. Carnivore Ivy did ok for a plant. Locust had a good comeback. Reaper was a notable third this time, although none of 'the rest of the bots' made it to 200 cycles.

0	6	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	5	Quickdraw
15	3	Reaper
15	3	Locust
13	3	Republican Wasp
5	1	Carnivore Ivy
6	1	Aggressive Dwarfs
20	3	Catapiller
15	2	TriggerBot
18	2	Ann

Standings:

0	6	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	5	Quickdraw
5	1	Carnivore Ivy
6	1	Aggressive Dwarfs
13	3	Republican Wasp
14	5	Etch Mk II
14	5	EyeOfTheBeholder
14	3	Occura Amplificis
15	3	Reaper
15	3	Locust
15	3	Detonator v1.2
15	2	TriggerBot
16	3	The One
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
16	2	Blue on blue
18	2	Ann
18	4	Callidus
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
20	3	Catapiller

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: Botsareus on October 26, 2014, 02:23:11 PM

Quote

Carnivore Ivy did ok for a plant.

Sorry Maca, under new chloroplast setting Ivy sucked. It behaves more like the trolls but the webs it forms are still sweet. Oh wait, you are running 2.48.23  nm.

Quote

Aggressive Dwarfs started really strong, almost matching Fruit Flies in numbers, but they burnt all their energy away

I note the same for trolls.

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 02:30:13 PM

Round 7:

Jeffalish held til turn 60. Singula and Republican Wasp almost made it to 100 cycles, but that didn't save Wasp from having to rest for quite a while. Eye turtled at <6 units all the way while other bots died. Nothing changed among the top two.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	7	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	6	Quickdraw
16	6	EyeOfTheBeholder
17	6	Etch Mk II
18	4	Occura Amplificis
5	1	Singula Haloculus v2.1
19	3	Republican Wasp
13	2	Aggressive Dwarfs
13	2	Carnivore Ivy
9	1	Jeffalish!

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	7	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	6	Quickdraw
5	1	Singula Haloculus v2.1
9	1	Jeffalish!
13	2	Aggressive Dwarfs
13	2	Carnivore Ivy
15	3	Reaper
15	3	Locust
15	3	Detonator v1.2
15	2	TriggerBot
16	6	EyeOfTheBeholder
16	3	The One
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
16	2	Blue on blue
17	6	Etch Mk II
18	2	Ann
18	4	Occura Amplificis
18	4	Callidus
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
19	3	Republican Wasp
20	3	Catapiller

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 26, 2014, 04:20:43 PM

Round 8:

Last one today.

A lot of bots now in the list opted for fast reproduction, including Gnat 3.0. Quickdraw spends the first 30 cycles in the bottom half (probably distracted by all the bot spam) before picking up speed and reaching a quarter of Fruit Flies numbers. At the bottom several lone survivors battled to not be the first one to die, with the last Jeffalish making it all the way to an unexpected 4th.

At the usual draw time, Quickdraw had managed to get an even ratio with Fruit Flies, so I left this one run for longer. Eventually they both flatlined, Fruit Flies at 600 units and Quickdraw at 1000 units.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	8	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	7	Quickdraw
17	4	Locust
12	2	Jeffalish!
4	1	Gnat 3.0
20	4	Reaper
19	3	Carnivore Ivy
12	2	Singula Haloculus v2.1
21	3	Aggressive Dwarfs
9	1	Guardian v0.9

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	8	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	7	Quickdraw
4	1	Gnat 3.0
9	1	Guardian v0.9
12	2	Jeffalish!
12	2	Singula Haloculus v2.1
15	3	Detonator v1.2
15	2	TriggerBot
16	6	EyeOfTheBeholder
16	3	The One
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
16	2	Blue on blue
17	6	Etch Mk II
17	4	Locust
18	4	Occura Amplificis
18	4	Callidus
18	2	Ann
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
19	3	Republican Wasp
19	3	Carnivore Ivy
20	4	Reaper
20	3	Catapiller
21	3	Aggressive Dwarfs

Actual ranking (average):

Average Score	Rounds	Bot
0	8	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	7	Quickdraw
2.67	6	EyeOfTheBeholder
2.83	6	Etch Mk II
4	1	Gnat 3.0
4.25	4	Locust
4.25	4	Occura Amplificis
4.25	4	Callidus
5	4	Reaper
5	3	Detonator v1.2
5.33	3	The One
6	2	Jeffalish!
6	2	Singula Haloculus v2.1
6.33	3	Republican Wasp
6.33	3	Carnivore Ivy
6.67	3	Catapiller
7	3	Aggressive Dwarfs
7.5	2	TriggerBot
8	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
8	2	Blue on blue
9	2	Ann
9	2	Martian Tank 3
9	2	Multiply4
9	1	Guardian v0.9

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 27, 2014, 05:43:14 AM

Round 9:

TieFighters looks like a new contender to fear. Jeffalish again clings around to beat the bottom half, so did Defenders v0.01. First time four species make it to cycle 200. Detonator v1.2's lone survivor managed to outlast 31 TieFighters into cycle 300, but not the last one, which died promptly after grabbing third place.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	9	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	8	Quickdraw
2	1	TieFighters
18	4	Detonator v1.2
4	1	Defenders v0.01
17	3	Jeffalish!
18	3	Singula Haloculus v2.1
11	2	Gnat 3.0
17	2	Guardian v0.9
24	3	TriggerBot

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	9	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	8	Quickdraw
2	1	TieFighters
4	1	Defenders v0.01
11	2	Gnat 3.0
16	6	EyeOfTheBeholder
16	3	The One
16	2	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2
16	2	Blue on blue
17	6	Etch Mk II
17	4	Locust
17	3	Jeffalish!
17	2	Guardian v0.9
18	4	Detonator v1.2
18	4	Occura Amplificis
18	4	Callidus
18	3	Singula Haloculus v2.1
18	2	Ann
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
19	3	Republican Wasp
19	3	Carnivore Ivy
20	4	Reaper
20	3	Catapiller
21	3	Aggressive Dwarfs
24	3	TriggerBot

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 27, 2014, 06:33:55 AM

Round 10:

Pacifist started replicating almost as quickly as Quickdraw and held to third from the start. Gnat 3.0 and TheOne had a rough time this round. Eye turtled too much, hanging low with a few units while the rest were in the dozens and hundreds. Five species made it to 280 cycles this round, and the four top made it to 430.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	10	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	9	Quickdraw
2	1	Pacifist
5	2	TieFighters
20	7	EyeOfTheBeholder
9	2	Defenders v0.01
6	1	Rabidus v1.1
23	4	The One
19	3	Gnat 3.0
25	3	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	10	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	9	Quickdraw
2	1	Pacifist
5	2	TieFighters
6	1	Rabidus v1.1
9	2	Defenders v0.01
16	2	Blue on blue
17	6	Etch Mk II
17	4	Locust
17	3	Jeffalish!
17	2	Guardian v0.9
18	4	Detonator v1.2
18	4	Occura Amplificis
18	4	Callidus
18	3	Singula Haloculus v2.1
18	2	Ann
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
19	3	Gnat 3.0
19	3	Republican Wasp
19	3	Carnivore Ivy
20	7	EyeOfTheBeholder
20	4	Reaper
20	3	Catapiller
21	3	Aggressive Dwarfs
23	4	The One
24	3	TriggerBot
25	3	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 27, 2014, 03:56:47 PM

I wish more bestiary bots had attachments.

Round 11:

Nothing much. Good showing by Excalibur, and a lone TieFighter outlasted Pacifist.

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	11	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	10	Quickdraw
7	3	TieFighters
5	2	Pacifist
21	7	Etch Mk II
5	1	Excalibur 1.12
12	2	Rabidus v1.1
7	1	Bubbles
24	3	Blue on blue
18	3	Defenders v0.01

Standings:

Score	Rounds	Bot
0	11	Fruit_Fliesv0.21
0	10	Quickdraw
5	2	Pacifist
5	1	Excalibur 1.12
7	3	TieFighters
7	1	Bubbles
12	2	Rabidus v1.1
17	4	Locust
17	3	Jeffalish!
17	2	Guardian v0.9
18	4	Detonator v1.2
18	4	Occura Amplificis
18	4	Callidus
18	3	Defenders v0.01
18	3	Singula Haloculus v2.1
18	2	Ann
18	2	Martian Tank 3
18	2	Multiply4
19	3	Gnat 3.0
19	3	Republican Wasp
19	3	Carnivore Ivy
20	7	EyeOfTheBeholder
20	4	Reaper
20	3	Catapiller
21	7	Etch Mk II
21	3	Aggressive Dwarfs
23	4	The One
24	3	Blue on blue
24	3	TriggerBot
25	3	Tie Divider Schoolans Planty 2

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: Botsareus on October 28, 2014, 12:07:40 PM

Two questions:

1.) Mind if I post this thing to the leagues as an alternate?
2.) Can you please run a chloroplast king of the hill league?

Thx  :)

Title: Re: So I thought I'd try running a King of the Hill sim...
Post by: MacadamiaNuts on October 28, 2014, 03:55:33 PM

No prob!