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Newbie / Hiya and wiki
« on: March 31, 2008, 06:49:27 PM »
Yeah, the pages tend to be slow. But that certainly isn't the end of all learning. I can't say that I'll be overly helpful but their are a lot of friendly, helpful people on these forums who have a lot of experience with DB, three of whom have posted above me   .

Off Topic / Daniel Dennett speech about ALIFE
« on: March 31, 2008, 06:35:32 PM »
The file played in my windows media player. I think that the Vista WMP is equipped with the neccessary tools to run that format...?

Thank you for your responses. Perhaps I should have been more clear. What I should have said was that the simulation that I was running with SV2 was the simulation in which I was noticing the pattern. I also should have saved the Avg. mutations graph  ; they correlated strongly.  The reason I simply stated the correlation, and not a general conclusion about causation (although it may have sounded like that) was because I really did not know what was in fact causing the pattern. Evidently it was how the bot was designed that I was uncertain about, so thank you for clearing that up.

I prefer oscilating mutations rates

As for this, I'm going to try that right now and see how it works  

Off Topic / Daniel Dennett speech about ALIFE
« on: March 30, 2008, 10:42:08 PM »
Carl Sagan called his book, Darwin's Dangerous Idea, a "...breath of fresh air". I couldn't have put it better myself. I am so glad you posted this lecture. To see him actually speak and have a face and voice behind the writer is wonderful. He is such a good thinker, and has a delightful sense of humour. Thanks for the post.

Ok, thank you. Enlightening words!

What are your thoughts about the zerobot sim?

Quote from: Numsgil
Another solution, if you can, is to run in IM.  Something magical happens when you have different strains of bots competing for control of a local food source.

Well, it just so happens that the bot in question was Shrinking Violet 2, and I have been running it in IM since the start. I played around with the costs a little bit but I can't find the right balance: Either 1)the Shrinking Violet 2 is unnaffected by the NRG and cost changes, or if that isn't the case, then 2) I border on wiping out the entire population. I should also mention that I had mutations enabled and maxed.

[attachment=830:Shrinkin...etGraph1.JPG]: A Variation on that pattern repeats over and over again. I hate Veggies!  

I was not sure whether a topic like this already existed, and I couldn't find one, so I decided to devote my official second topic on this forum   to the issue of evolution and population decline. First of all, I've had a sim running about 50 hours now and I've noticed that overall, average mutations increase as population increases. This makes sense. I've also noticed that with decreases, the relationship is the same, which also makes sense. My dillema is this: How could one expect to see evolutionary changes in a population that remains relatively stagnant? Furthermore, how could a ".totalmyspecies bot" evolve in a way that doesn't lead to the aforementioned "stagnation"? Does it just take a VERY VERY long time?? Perhaps I'm still unfamiliar with this  

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this and if there are any predictions on the evolutionary patterns/cycle, and things like that. EricL, your 1000 zerbot write-up still astounds me, and was very helpful: Did you save a long-term graphs on that sim? I was thinking about doing an evosim and keeping full record of all of the data to get an idea of the long-term patterns, if such patterns even exist.

Thanks in advance,


Evolution and Internet Sharing Sims / Come join the F1 megaverse!
« on: March 29, 2008, 11:19:24 PM »
Quote from: shvarz
Today I have a spike in bot numbers, sim slows down to 0.1-0.3 cycles/sec and all I get are the Time Outs.

≤0.1 cycles/sec occurs mostly when there are 2.5k bots, otherwise the cycles remain around 4/sec. That's for me at least  

Newbie / Where are the free sysvars?
« on: March 28, 2008, 03:09:42 PM »
Quote from: Numsgil
I've noticed wiki lag, too.

Yeah, I noticed that as well.

Evolution and Internet Sharing Sims / Come join the F1 megaverse!
« on: March 27, 2008, 07:11:58 PM »
Quote from: Numsgil
Quote from: asterixx
Quote from: Numsgil
Heh, looks like an agar plate.
My brother and I had an agar plate growing in our kitchen for a long time.

Sure it just wasn't a regular plate with something growing on it in your kitchen   Because I've had those before XD


Off Topic / Math education
« on: March 27, 2008, 04:46:14 PM »
First of all, I know I'm "new" here, but I won't let that discredit me.

Second of all, I'm being careful not to generalize and say that all schools aren't teaching mathematics. There are many schools across North America that have used what EricL is referring to as a discovery-based approach, and such schools have seen the benefits of such a style of teaching and learning. The point is, we ALL learn things better if we can find meaning in our own lives through that selfsame learning.

Thank you for sharing the essay

Evolution and Internet Sharing Sims / Come join the F1 megaverse!
« on: March 27, 2008, 04:18:20 PM »
Quote from: Numsgil
Heh, looks like an agar plate.

Yes it does. My brother and I had an agar plate growing in our kitchen for a long time. Unfortunately, we had to throw it out  

And also, Flypaper ate all of my Ancestralis bots!  

Newbie / Hello
« on: March 26, 2008, 09:18:42 PM »
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the help, and its funny you should say that because several of your bots just came through just as I was reading this.

And nice to meet you shvarz!

Newbie / Hello
« on: March 26, 2008, 09:10:35 PM »
Quote from: EricL
Some connection errors are expected in IM.  Let it run and see if bots come and go.  If the population numbers for other sims (see the Interent Sims graph) change over time, it's working.

It was probably pow not how.  The pow command raises the top number on the stack to the power of the second number on the stack.

OK, thanks.

Oh, and the bots that I'm running are going into the teleporter okay, but they just end up coming back. Will I expect to see different bots coming through the portal, or just my own bots with mutations?

Newbie / Hello
« on: March 26, 2008, 08:49:47 PM »
Thankyou for responding so fast!

Ok, well I get an IM log message like 26/03/2008 5:36:56 PM: Error disconnecting Unable to connect to remote host, Im thinking its a firewall issue maybe?

Oh and about the .how thing...I think I remember the mutation looking something like this:

"Insertion changed the .repro command to the advanced command: how at point x during cycle x..."


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