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Code center => Suggestions => Old Suggestions Awaiting Programming => Topic started by: Zelos on March 04, 2005, 02:37:03 AM

Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 04, 2005, 02:37:03 AM
Here is the news!
Our scientist have recently discovered a meteor that has a diameter of many kilometers. Its on direct course for earth and will impact the planet whit in the next month. Scientist have calculated that the impact will be larger than anything known and will kill all of us! :evil:

this could have been the news before the meteor impacted the earth for 65 million years ago. if they dinosaurse had been inteligent. we are familiar whit them, does gaints that died out for 65 million years ago. wouldnt it be good to have something in the program like this? that all of a suddenly some disaster happen and kill 80% of all bots. maybe it should just pic out the survivng bots randomly. a disaster that kill most of the life give the life a chance to evolve, coz it open the possibilities. if it werent for that meteor we mammals wouldnt be the ruler of this planet. :laugh:
 :lecture: zelos :lecture:
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 04, 2005, 02:48:38 AM
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Here is the news!
Our scientist have recently discovered a meteor that has a diameter of many kilometers. Its on direct course for earth and will impact the planet whit in the next month. Scientist have calculated that the impact will be larger than anything known and will kill all of us! :evil:
Damn, I guess this means all that work on 3.0 was pointless.  Such a waste.


A huge disaster would be an interesting tool.  You could blot out the sun (lower the light intensity) with dust and kill robots within a certain radius of a certain point.

Would be good to incorporate upkeep costs for muscles, etc. into it or you'll just end up killing all the smaller robots, which is opposite of what's supposed to happen.
Title: Disaster
Post by: Botsareus on March 04, 2005, 04:04:15 PM
"Damn, I guess this means all that work on 3.0 was pointless. Such a waste."

What do you mean Num?
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 04, 2005, 05:26:58 PM
Didn't you hear?  The world is ending via a huge meteor!
Title: Disaster
Post by: Botsareus on March 04, 2005, 05:50:00 PM
ok
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 04, 2005, 06:05:34 PM
That being a reference to Zelos's original post and not anything real (don't panic!)
Title: Disaster
Post by: Old Henk on March 05, 2005, 01:45:33 AM
Repent! Repent!  :lol: :D  :lol:
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 05, 2005, 03:09:04 AM
Here is the Dino-news!
It has been 14 days since the meteor of death was discovered. Scientists have been working 20hours a day (the entire day) to find a way to stop it. But stoping it has been proved to be impossible for us.  :help: They have discovered a planet in our soler system that would be able to support our lifes, the atmosphere contain carbondioxid and oxygen. That planet is the forths planet from the sun. If we could travel to that planet we would have been saved.
That is the latest news, have a happy life before we all die!
Title: Disaster
Post by: MightyPenguin on March 05, 2005, 04:13:00 AM
Someone suddenly discovers another planet? After they have the technology to detect a meteor that far out?

Well, carry on.
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 05, 2005, 04:16:49 AM
it aint so far, we are number 3, and who is number 4?
Title: Disaster
Post by: Old Henk on March 06, 2005, 12:27:07 PM
The red planet, Mars.
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 06, 2005, 12:38:55 PM
yes, the planet mars whit its 2 moons, phobos and diemos
Title: Disaster
Post by: MightyPenguin on March 07, 2005, 12:55:34 PM
Are you responding to me? Because I fail to see what that has to do with anything. I was just a bit skeptical that they managed to miss a planet for however many years and out of pure luck picked up a meteor on crash course to the planet.
Title: Disaster
Post by: PurpleYouko on March 07, 2005, 01:27:08 PM
Maybe it had been hiding.... like.... realy well?
Perhaps the big scary meteorite frightened it so it gave itself away

 <_<  PY  <_<
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 07, 2005, 02:24:05 PM
well, since when have dinosaurse been know for bieng smart? they were pretty stupid
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 07, 2005, 02:46:26 PM
Dinosaurs weren't as stupid as people thought years ago.  They were just very specialized.  Many of them exhibited pack hunting (velociraptor) which is a very advanced behavior and takes alot of forethought and planning.
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 07, 2005, 03:06:36 PM
maybe, but they still never had a TV ;) which is much better :D
I know that some dinosaurs had "schools" they put their children in when they were hunting, some parents watched all the children while the others hunted, then they shared the food some, or took care of the parents who were watching the kids kids. but still the children never learned 1+1=2 which we humans do when we are very young, even before we speak :D
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 07, 2005, 03:17:29 PM
No one's arguing that dinosaurs were sentient, but they were actually very intelligent creatures (the Dromeosaurids anyway).
Title: Disaster
Post by: PurpleYouko on March 07, 2005, 03:45:58 PM
Stegosaurus even had two brains.

 :lol:  PY  :lol:
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 08, 2005, 01:13:52 AM
they had 2 brains, just like us. but inteligent were they never, why doesnt we find anything that an inteligent bieng would make, if they were iteligent?
Title: Disaster
Post by: shvarz on March 08, 2005, 02:03:20 AM
LOL, not like us!

Two brains - one in the head, one in the butt  :)
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 08, 2005, 02:06:52 AM
Intelligent -  Showing sound judgment and rationality

Sentient -  Having sense perception; conscious

Some dinosaurs sentient?  Unlikely (though certainly not impossible).

Some dinosaurs intelligent?  Yes.  Pack behavior implies the ability to work together as well as plan in the future.

Note that technology does not imply sentience, or vice versa.  Our ancestors were not less intelligent or less entient than we are today, even though we have better technology.  In fact, our ancestors existed for thousands of years at just about our intelligence level without anything but the most rudimentary technology.

So it is not impossible at all that some velociraptor cousin reached sentience at some point in time.  However, we have no proof that sentience insures survivability.  Intelligence costs alot of energy to maintain, so it is only evolutionarily advantageous to have it if it means you can find food easier.

So a sentient group of dinosaurs could have come and gone.
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 08, 2005, 02:12:29 AM
we humans have a brain in our butt. its alot of nervers around our tripa. which is bieng called a second brain, coz it work independed from the brain. scientist belive that the big brain, which we humans have and other animals, come from that brain. some nervers wonder from there to start a bigger brain. they belive this coz at every animal that part of the neural net is well developed, unlike the big brain
Title: Disaster
Post by: Numsgil on March 08, 2005, 02:21:40 AM
If this (http://www.island.net/~ipincott/article89.htm) is what you're talking about, you better rethink your position.  Please don't post erroneous information :bash:

Our brain came to develop as a single conglomeration of nerve cells.  They most certainly did not first develop in the butt!

As for any brain like organ anywhere in a chordata's except its head, it's a lie!

Please read this article (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_003).
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 08, 2005, 02:25:46 AM
whats most important? to get energy, or analyze tha data from primetive senses which gives only little information about the sourrunding? and I am not posting erroneous information. im just posting what ive read,  :angry: adn how can the brain have started evolve in the head, when tehre was no head to evolve in? first organism was primetive and had no head, like a starfish, it doesnt have a head, but still a brain :angry:  :angry:  :angry:
Title: Disaster
Post by: shvarz on March 08, 2005, 11:55:22 AM
Hmm, thanks Nums for pointing out about the second brain myth.  I was not aware that it was disproved.

By the way, when looking up info on how brains work, I've stumbled upon an interesting page, which appears to be an answer sheet to some exam.  It has lots of fun info about brains: http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs182/a..._-_Solution.pdf (http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~cs182/assignments/A1_-_Solution.pdf)
Title: Disaster
Post by: shvarz on March 08, 2005, 07:41:18 PM
No games, having a brain's been a total disaster for all of us - would be much happier without it.  Let's just all submit our wills to the government!
Title: Disaster
Post by: Botsareus on March 08, 2005, 09:10:26 PM
:banghead: Lol yea , I need to wait a while before I post more stuff , ...  :pengysmiley:

Bau
Title: Disaster
Post by: Zelos on March 09, 2005, 12:56:59 AM
when its about the brain in the ass, how could dinosaurs get a brain in the ass from nowhere? its most lilky it evolved fromtsomething taht was already there
Title: Disaster
Post by: shvarz on March 09, 2005, 01:05:48 AM
As Nums said, there was no brain in the ass.  Just a bunch of nerves that happened to be bigger than real ping-pong-size brain.
Title: Disaster
Post by: PurpleYouko on March 14, 2005, 09:18:00 AM
Ganglians eh?

I just remember reading about the Steg's second brain when I was a kid. They taught it as a fact back then. Didn't realize they had decided that it wasn't in fact a brain at all until Num pointed it out.

Since then I have gone out and read over a whole bunch of the research notes.

 :D  PY  :D