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Title: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on January 09, 2022, 08:50:37 PM: so i was running an evolution sim with animal minimalis, i made it huge, with hundreds of bots. i just fed them some really basic algae that doesn't make slime because i was hoping for the bots to take advantage of it (and also so the simulation runs faster ;)) at one point i noticed one particular patch of algae that didn't go away, and had survived for 20 generations, i was super interested because most plants are just there to feed but this one was really spaced out and smaller than normal. i saw that instead of making tons of chloroplasts and trying to grow as fast as possible which would make them really big and easy to eat they just made 1 chloroplast per cycle which slowed their growth but kept them small and hard to eat. the bots seemed to be feeding off of the plants but not killing them off completely, circling around almost like gardeners.

it looked like first the bots were sloppy eaters used to feeding on huge plants with full chloroplasts, then some plant had a mutation that caused them to only make 1 chloroplast per cycle, which made them small and hard to eat, but not impossible, some bots moved in, ate all the big plants, and started circling around the small plants getting a shot here and there, enough to reproduce once in a while, while the plants very slowly grew outward. i believe the bots have to have crappy shooting in order to coexist with the plants and have a reliable food source

i have a photo of it from yesterday, and a new photo from today. there was a small crisis where the area was temporarily infested with max body plants that somehow figured out how to shoot and they would kill everything that intersected their shots but thankfully they died because of waste. of course there's other places in the simulation, where the non-gardener bots are happy to eat huge accumulated stacks of normal plants, and then hope to find more food before they die
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on January 12, 2022, 01:30:32 PM: I had a sim once where the plants learned to "vibrate" by storing small random values in .dx and .sx which made them hard enough to eat that they were able to coexist with the animals for the same reason: the feeding animals ended up being quite sloppy because they had a hard time aiming their shots to always hit. I think it's a viable strategy to get a coexistance going: you need the animals to struggle to feed enough that the plants have an opportunity to survive. But it can also tip too far in the plants' favor and it can be so hard to feed that the animals die off.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on January 12, 2022, 07:57:43 PM: yeah, it's all about sustainability, i'm hoping that this little plant will spread to the whole map and i won't even have to repopulate with normal plants, because it is kinda slowly creeping outwards... here is how it's going right now, surprisingly a wholly separate clump of plants have appeared to the left of the main clump, they work by only producing chloroplast when their chloroplast is less than refypos? ill just put it here
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cond *.chlr *.refypos < start 160 .mkchlr store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 10 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.nrg 6000 > start 50 .repro store 15 .aimright store inc & sqr stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 24 '''''''''''''''''''''''
and this is a size 14 map too
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on January 17, 2022, 02:01:25 PM: yo guys one of the plant colonies split into 2
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on January 23, 2022, 11:02:54 PM: ok guys bad news the original 2 colonies of coexisting plants and bots are dead D:

but good news is that another has taken its place! unlike the previous ones which were dreadfully slow these new ones just limit their max chloroplasts to stay small, i didn't even think of that :D

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cond *.chlr 16281 < start 160 .mkchlr store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 10 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.nrg 6000 > start 50 .repro store 15 .aimright store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 21 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on January 26, 2022, 01:36:12 AM: Interestingly the first DNA you posted had some junk at the end the second one doesn't. Otherwise they are remarkably similar. I'm guessing the mutation rate is pretty low?
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on February 01, 2022, 01:38:44 AM: Quote from: Numsgil on January 26, 2022, 01:36:12 AM
Interestingly the first DNA you posted had some junk at the end the second one doesn't. Otherwise they are remarkably similar. I'm guessing the mutation rate is pretty low?
Yeah it was 1/16x at first but it was too slow so i increased it to 1/2x. Also the plant dna is only 22 long so it has a super low mutation rate compared to the actual bots which have dna of 150-200 length. Remember the first strain died, then the second strain came from one that was spawned in randomly and mutated.

Ok speaking about the bots, this is the best performing bot with 22 descendants. I noticed when zooming out that a lot of the bots seem to be drifting upwards, probably because of this part: "*.sun .up store"
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11833 *-860 194 314 *.fixed 302 start 800 angle dropbool *.sun .up store 534 *.refaimsx .readtie store store 25450 *.nrg 28396 >= .repro store .tout10 store *.maxvel *.trefaimdx 453 *582 cos *.numties drop *.in5 store > *.shell *.mkslime *.refypos 14337 *.ypos *.waste 1 *.refmulti *.mass *.trefvelscalar store 340 31707 store *240 store 410 *.poisoned '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 54 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.tin5 522 *.poisoned *224 *.tin7 30817 store *.tin1 *.chlr store 469 *.totalbots 822 419 *.refnrg store store .sharewaste store > *.refypos .eye9width store 18510 19696 .memloc store start -6 7 *.chlr inc store 16402 sub store *.shdx 28689 over *641 *.body *.eye1width 25811 *.memval *.refdn 526 *.trefsx ~ ceilstore divstore -5 2 *.veldn .tieang2 store ceilstore 511 *.tin7 add != -143 104 dupbool * *.in5 .tielen2 store ~ xor 19485 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 125 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 126 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start .aimleft store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 128 '''''''''''''''''''''''
These are the dark plants near the top/bottom edges of the screen. They have survived for 951 generations (wow), I guess being at the edge helps a lot because it reduces the bots' feeding efficiency allowing the plants to survive.

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cond *.chlr 16281 < start .mkchlr addstore 160 .mkchlr addstore add .tout4 store store 28335 *.tin5 ceil 14674 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 19 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.nrg 8199 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 22 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 23 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 50 .repro store *.refvelup 15728'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 28 '''''''''''''''''''''''
And here is a picture of the map, some bots feeding, and the cool dank vine color of the 951 generation survivor plants
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on February 10, 2022, 12:36:19 AM: aw man bad news all of the lingering plants died, i guess the bots got way better at eating them until there were no more left :(

but i saw some bots chasing each other coherently which is amazing
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on February 13, 2022, 01:27:59 PM: ah crap my last simulation got screwed up... somehow the bots evolved to do absolutely nothing until they died if they're near the top of the map, like absolutely nothing, they were just chilling surrounded by plants on all sides, and they all collected up there... so i started a new one, this time with gravity :o despite running into each other these bots surprisingly don't attack each other, i guess they're just using each other to build speed so they can find food
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on February 26, 2022, 01:16:44 AM: aha! you thought i was gone, but nah, i got some more pictures for you. it's just been boring because these guys wouldn't mutate at all even tho it's been 17 million cycles, so they're just boring point and shooters. amazing they manage to retain the ability to eat accurately though, i guess the gravity makes it a huge advantage cause otherwise you lose your food D:
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on February 26, 2022, 06:51:31 PM: long term stability is interesting in its own right, but as long as there's some mutations I imagine something will change sooner or later.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 01, 2022, 11:05:40 PM: Quote from: Numsgil on February 26, 2022, 06:51:31 PM
long term stability is interesting in its own right, but as long as there's some mutations I imagine something will change sooner or later.

true i nevver thought of it that way, it is hard to get bots to evolve interesting adaptations since, the way it looks to me, if the bots are already doing well in their environment, they will just stagnate or add junk code because if they're doing well enough, i tried to come up with an explanation i call "beneficial mutation usefulness" to explain it

the possibility of a beneficial mutation = a
the positive effect of a potential beneficial mutation on a creatures ability to survive and reproduce = b
the creature's current ability to survive and reproduce = c
ideally, c+(a*b) should be quite higher than c in order for beneficial mutations to occur sufficiently often and sufficiently increase fitness so that natural selection favors them and they become more widespread in the population.

a is generally very low as neutral mutations that do nothing and harmful mutations like mutations that remove a creature's ability to reproduce or cause it to move uncontrollably are far more likely, to increase beneficial mutation usefulness, we can increase mutation rate which is a bit dodgy since it increases neutral and harmful mutations which may drown out the beneficial mutations (genetic drift)

b is random, a lot of the time it's extremely low like a small numerical change like going from needing 20000 energy to reproduce to 20348, but very rarely b becomes very high due to introducing completely new behavior like adding the ability to produce shell that wasn't there before, but i think on average b is very low. b is not manipulable because the nature of mutations make them completely random and out of control

c is determined by the environment, which includes environmental conditions like gravity and friction, amount of food (algae), potential prey, predators, even members of the creature's own species can fall in either category if they're cannibalistic (which happens sometimes). to increase beneficial mutation usefulness, we can decrease the survivability of the current environment, some ways to decrease c might be decrease amount of food, decrease light energy, increase energy cost for living and doing stuff, introduce predators, etc.

if c is relatively high, and they're prospering and thriving, the difference between c+(a*b) and c, which is a*b, is miniscule compared to c and the beneficial mutations are lost to randomness and genetic drift
but if c is too low everyone dies before beneficial mutations can even be introduced

so i feel there is this very small goldilocks zone where beneficial mutations are needed enough that they can take over, but the environment is not so dangerous that everyone dies, i think it's just really interesting how it works when YOU'RE the one trying to manipulate the environment so that they evolve cool stuff for our own amusement :D do you have any tips how to reach this goldilocks zone? my sim almost died once because i gave them too little food D:

edit: it has recovered since though, here is the current best bot with 25 descendants:
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cond *.eye5 *.trefvelyourdn > *.tin3 .eye4width store start *.refveldx .dx store 822 .up addstore ceil 7805 mult *348 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 19 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond inc *.eye5 281 >= *.refeye *.maxvel inc start -6 .shoot store *317 *.trefnrg 822 .up substore .memloc store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 37 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 38 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start %= < rndstore 24835 17302 sqr .aimright floorstore *.refaim .mkchlr store *.trefshoot *.venom *131 *.memval sqr 542 300 *.nrg 24591 > *.in5 addstore addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 62 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on March 03, 2022, 12:10:58 AM: This gets in to areas of actual biology research so smart people have had different opinions on the matter over the centuries, but personally I ascribe to a kind of haystack model. That's often discussed in terms of the problem of altruism but I think it works for the evolution of complex behavior generally.

The idea goes that an isolated population tends to become genetically homogenous over time. Sometimes beneficial mutations develop, sometimes harmful ones, sometimes lots of neutral mutations, but generally things have a tendency to spread out and either become universal or extinct. It's possible for such a population to even drive itself to extinction by accidentally getting into evolutionary dead ends.

Now imagine having dozens or hundreds of such populations, all from a common ancestor, and having them isolated long enough that they're all a bit different. Now suddenly mix them together into a single population. Each line has to fight for survival and a line with a beneficial mutation has an edge. Wait for the larger population to become homegenous again, then split the population back up into the original enclaves. Now repeat this on different time and size scales with different groups in a chaotic soup of isolating and recombining populations. You end up with a red queen's race of competing genetic lines fighting against each other. The lines that do this well survive, the ones that don't, don't. In sexual and horizontal gene transfer organisms the different lines can even create hybrids during the mixing process so you can have mutations that are neutral or even slighytly negative independently find each other and produce a beneficial result.

That's the theory. If you wanted to mimic something like this in Darwinbots you would run a simulation for a while until there are some number of mutations in the population and things seem to have stagnated. Then find an examplar bot and create a new simulation with clones of that bot and the original line. Run that for a while, find an examplar bot, then create a new simulation with the original, the 1st round examplar and this new examplar. Repeat ad nauseum, choosing which examplars go together in a sim arbitrarily/randomly. You end up with strong selective pressure without the possibility of a mutation meltdown. This is an awful lot like what DeepMind did for their Starcraft2 research: they built a ladder and pitted new versions of the AI against old version of the AI periodically to protect against "catastrophic forgetting". The ones that did well had to do well against not just their peers but previous iterations of themselves. The difference in biology is that there's no external fitness function outside of keeping your line represented in the future somehow.

It's worth noting as a human you can put your thumb on the scale and select for things you find interesting, but you don't have to and it'd be perfectly fine to choose your examplars randomly.

Also worth noting, in Darwinbots it's hard for DNA to get longer. There's some mutations set up for it but practically speaking it doesn't happen very often. You can help things along a bit if you add a bunch of 0s to your bots' DNA to give it a bit more room to develop mutations in.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 11, 2022, 12:45:13 AM: Quote from: Numsgil on March 03, 2022, 12:10:58 AM
The idea goes that an isolated population tends to become genetically homogenous over time. Sometimes beneficial mutations develop, sometimes harmful ones, sometimes lots of neutral mutations, but generally things have a tendency to spread out and either become universal or extinct. It's possible for such a population to even drive itself to extinction by accidentally getting into evolutionary dead ends.
yes that's it, over a long enough period of time there's very little space in between death and domination

i wonder if you can just put down a ton of shapes to block off the map into several different areas, with small gaps so bots can pass through sometimes, and that will do the trick of regularly isolating and recombining populations as you say
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on March 11, 2022, 02:42:10 AM: Yeah that might work. Only one way to find out :)
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 12, 2022, 05:20:36 PM: i started a new simulation yesterday to test out if shapes could increase diversity, i left drifting shapes on but at the slowest setting because i like things to be more dynamic, but all the shapes just seem to get stuck outside of the map? anyways it seems to work well enough though i haven't seen any dramatic differences, probably need to make the map bigger

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Female DNA len 61 and male DNA len 61 had offspring DNA len 61 during cycle 520005
:o what is this? it showed up once in the mutation details, but hasn't showed up again ever since. did the bots have an extraordinary accident that allowed them to sexually reproduce, but just that once? because right now no one is sexually reproducing

oh man they figured out how to make chloroplasts... dont worry though i think i figured out how to keep them under control, raise the cost of chloroplasts from 0.2 to 0.5 though now they're almost extinct XD

ok so i have 1 picture of the whole simulation, 2 pictures of some bots tying though they always seem to die, one of them is just tying to every passing bot it can and the other seems to be stuck spinning with another one, and the last picture is an almost cancer bot that has really low energy need for reproduction (1500) feeding and encircling some plants... unfortunately they all died as soon as the food ran out. in the general population, some of them are moving in a corkscrew like pattern, while most are thrashing about randomly
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 13, 2022, 02:07:36 PM: oh my god... the sim got overrun by bots evolving into plants, despite the increased chloroplast cost

i think i'll just rewind from a previous save
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 15, 2022, 11:33:06 PM: i got some interesting news, the sim is now doing well, they're really good at hunting even small moving corpses. i think it's a side effect of the very high chloroplast cost, which means a lot of plants die trying to achieve 32000 chloroplasts, leaving a ton of corpses behind, and i suspect corpses are a big food source for them, which is why they became better at eating them. oh yeah also the waste threshold is really low, it's at 1000 so no fat bois who can't reproduce keep getting fatter and fatter, but also means when one plant dies it's likely the waste will spread to other plants, making them die, and then the waste keeps spreading to other plants as well, killing a lot of plants and leaving them as corpses. the bots seem to be very distrustful and try to stay away from each other. i'm not sure why this happened, maybe the bots figured that if it saw a fellow bot, there's no food there, so they go the other way and spread out more. maybe it's a reaction to cannibalism, like there was this one bot that seemed to have its attractions reversed - generally the bots are attracted to food (plants) and corpses and repelled by other bots, but this bot was attracted to other bots and repelled by plants and corpses, so it acted a bit like a predator! i gave it a bunch of energy so it could reproduce but it instantly ate its child. even though the bot managed to chase down most of the bots it came across and eat them, the energy balance of this bot still trended down because of its ridiculous refusal to eat plants and corpses. but suddenly i realized this bot could be useful for prodding the other bots to develop cool defense mechanisms through natural selection, without the possibility of it taking over (because it can't eat plants and corpses, and really likes eating its own children) so i saved it and named it cannibot! and now i can pop down a whole army of terminators to terrorize the bots whenever i want XD
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 17, 2022, 12:58:30 AM: what the hell no way the bots are ganging up on my terminator cannibots, like if i put one down next to a bunch of bots, they won't run away to get picked off one by one, they'll freaking gangbang the cannibot to death, but it's so weird because they seem to be able to tell who's native to the simulation, they don't attack fellow native bots but rather do the thing where they try to stay away from each other, but the moment i put down a cannibot everyone tries to kill it. have the bots become too smart??? the context of the picture is, i put a cannibot down inside a triangle of 3 bots, it went after the smallest bot which was quickly killed, but then these 2 remaining completely unrelated bots (well they probably have a common ancestor but their colors were pretty different) gang up on the cannibot and kill it, and then they go their separate ways!

anyways here is the code of the current best bot, i caught him feasting on some plants and popping out some babies, so i already know he won't be a horribly mutated mess, and at one point he had 50 descendants out of a population of 200, making up an amazing 1/4 of the entire population!!! so i know it's gonna be good
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*.eye5 .out10 store negstore .out7 store pow 13475 2 xor *-610 start 25696 5 .up store *.tielen1 *.refage swapbool 13771 * stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 22 ''''''''''''''''''''''' ~= *.tiepres '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 25 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.tiepres > *.refeye *.myeye != start -6 .shoot store sin ceilstore 20551 *.refveldx .dx store != .out7 store pow *.readtie floor ceil !%= stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 50 ''''''''''''''''''''''' 573 dist multstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 54 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start .eye9dir store 475 sgn *.availability *.dnalen *.refdx substore 314 rnd *.thisgene 205 .tielen3 store sub .aimright store 102 sin '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start div *.refvelup !%= swapbool *274 21 *.nrg 23486 > *.tieang *.vel .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 89 '''''''''''''''''''''''on closer inspection i was really surprised that it kept this line: "*.refeye *.myeye !=" which is the line that i think stops them from devolving into endless cannibalism. but how does it tell apart native bots, some of which have deviated really far by the way, from the cannibot? another point of interest is that it uses its velocity to determine how big of a baby it should make? very interesting method of variance given the range is 0-60 (max velocity is 60)
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on March 17, 2022, 01:48:09 AM: yeah those are some interesting mutations. Keep at it, see if you can get it to do more interesting things.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 18, 2022, 09:15:22 PM: good news they learned how to make shell!!! :D here is dna:

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.out4 store ~ .aimleft store 803 501 *.eye5 * 215 start *.in1 5 .up store 521 and *.tin10 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 19 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond floor *.eye5 *.trefvelyourdn > *.refeye *.myeye != *.myshoot -6 .shoot store .maxvel ceilstore *660 *.refveldx .dx store != *.myties *.refmulti ~ .aimleft store *.reftie start dec - *.dnalen *.refdx substore 314 rnd *.thisgene *.trefvelmysx .mkshell store sub .aimright substore *102 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 59 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 60 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond xor *.refveldx *.thisgene *.trefvelmysx 911 store sub .aimright ceilstore -173 clear else over store *.nrg 23486 > inc 12835 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 81 '''''''''''''''''''''''
i think it's only making shell when it's tied to something, like when reproducing or when just having been birthed, that's quite ingenious because reproducing happens regularly (at least for those who are successful) it makes a decent amount of shell without making so much that it weighs the bot down so much that they can't move
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 20, 2022, 06:55:07 PM: woah the simulation is 10 million cycles old now and weird things are happening, first it seems there was a big split in evolution that went 2 ways, there's the browns and the blues, also there were some bots that were tying to everything, unfortunately it seems they died soon after i observed them. also they lost the ability to make shell which is tragic but oh well. cannibalism seems to be more widespread too, though i think the majority of bots are still peaceful towards each other. i didn't see any compelling evidence that the blues and the browns were collectively hostile towards each other, i think cannibalism is more of a personal problem so if a bot is cannibalistic it will attack basically everyone no matter what

here's the best bot dna:
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7019 *.eye7 *.eye1 *.eye6 8802 > and *.trefdn dec 453 .aimright store 6213 .ploc store *.eye9 *.tin2 869 multstore overbool cond floor false negstore *399 *.eye2 *.reffixed >= *.refvelsx 16335 *.eye1 addstore *.eye6 *.eye1 *.shell 11 *.reftie 8802 *.eye5 mult >= *.trefdn stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' *.in10 *.reftie *.slime 12946 *.trefshoot *.eye8 30838 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 51 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 532 *.tin1 angle 542 *.refaim *.refsx mult >= *.trefshoot multstore 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 64 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 65 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *405 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 66 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 67 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *167 *.eye5 *.trefaimdx *.mydx *.refeye > !~= 834 *.shell start -6 .shoot addstore .eye5width store store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.eye1 *.eye6 ^ *.eye8 *.trefshoot -208 *.trefvelmydx *.eye1 *.eye6 over false 808 14 *.dx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 100 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 101 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 101 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 102 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start dupbool 25507 - 28839 rndstore dec 922 *.refdx substore overbool *.eye3 200 or 388 rnd *.thisgene *893 10453 5 sub floorstore substore 809 *.kills or >= store 521 503 21701 *.eye1 *500 rnd 7437 false store *.trefaimdx absstore *472 508 >> divstore *.eye8 *499 *.readtie -6 16525 *.tieang4 *.venom *.trefvelscalar *.tin4 *.refeye *.eye3 logx 10674 addstore *762 *628 over 16335 *.eye1 addstore *.eye6 *.eye1 *.shell 11 *.trefvelyourdn 8525 .fdbody store *.eye6 *.eye6 30838 *.refdx *.mydn *.refnrg *379 203 true 388 466 19401 *778 20 *.eye4 *.tieang2 *.eye7 *.eye6 *.eye6 30838 *.eye8 *.ypos -208 *.mysx 8701 *.tielen angle *.dx 11 ^ *.eye8 *.refbody *.eye6 ^ *.eyef false *.refshell *.hitup store *.dnalen 26572 divstore 881 -91 > 4 *.refaimdx *.nrg 19483 > ^ *.eye5 *.tin2 *.trefvelscalar *.eye1 over 7437 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 231 '''''''''''''''''''''''yeah its a beautiful mess isnt it lol
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 22, 2022, 11:18:10 PM: hmmmm, ok so after like 3 simulations ruined by freaking plants taking over the simulation, i got suspicious that it always kept happening so i looked for any plant bots that might have existed. when i found the little bastard hiding by spazzing out in between some shapes that were close to his color i killed that mfer as soon as i found em, good thing for save backups. now the simulation is running smoothly after i turned down light energy from 50 to 20, and no more plant takeovers have happened.

now to the present, all the bots are very homogenous color, cyan, it seems between the blues and the browns the blues won out in the end! in the blue-brown era the bots were paranoid and tried to stay away from each other as much as possible, but now it seems the bots don't really care as much anymore, and just ignore each other i did see some isolated cannibals taking advantage of this but i think their new behavior of yeeting themselves once in a while in a new direction more often than not throws off the cannibals, and helps them find food too!

here is a sample of 3 of the best performing bots, it constantly changes over time so it's also a nice way of getting a sample of multiple good bots. a slight note, as i was writing this it seems a small green strain has popped up, in fact the 3rd DNA sample is from a green bot, which made it to be the best bot! so we will see if the greens take over or not

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14417 floorstore store start substore overbool ++ *.trefup inc 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 13 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 14 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 15 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond .eye4width store multstore *841 floorstore .strbody store 12012 absstore *.trefaimdx *.eye5 *158 *.mydx *.refeye > !~= .setboy substore start -6 .shoot ceilstore *.shang 484 *.up *.refveldx .dx addstore absstore 16350 *601 *515 5532 false 962 *.trefaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 51 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 52 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else sub *.ypos 525 and add 476 2 18837 *.refypos *.refdx root *916 dupbool sgn '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 66 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 67 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.mypoison 808 angle .out7 store *.trefup *.eye1 474 *.tin8 divstore 534 *.shdx rnd swapbool sqrstore *.thisgene floorstore 23 *.veldn multstore 6443 *.hitdx 813 474 < *.vel inc *.trefnrg *.tin10 *.hitsx store store 438 794 store *.in6 1 *.ypos 1821 false floorstore substore ++ 371 store 10921 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 113 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 114 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 958 *.numties *.memval 413 swapbool 416 8303 *.memloc floorstore *.timer *.nrg *.refdx ^ 18107 > 7437 *.refdn ^ .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 134 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 135 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.trefvelyourdn *.refpoison .mkvenom store store 338 *.eye7 store .out8 ceilstore *.myvenom 6 518 .eye1dir store store substore 5476 *.eye6 *496 547'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 156 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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*14417 floorstore store start substore overbool *.tin1 *.trefup inc 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 13 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 14 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 15 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond floorstore *841 multstore floorstore 23 12012 absstore *.trefaimdx *.eye5 *158 *.mydx *.refeye > !~= .setboy store start -6 .shoot ceilstore *.shang .tielen1 store *.refveldx .dx addstore absstore 16350 *607 *515 5532 false 962 *.trefaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 50 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else 338 *.ypos 525 *.myaimdx add 1 *.ypos 1821 false floorstore substore ++ 371 .eye8width store 338 476 2 9420 negstore *.refdx root *916 dupbool sgn '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.mypoison dup *-161 *274 481 *.trefup *.eye1 474 *.tin8 divstore 534 *.shdx rnd swapbool addstore *.thisgene floorstore 23 *.veldn multstore .tieang3 store 813 474 < *.vel inc *.trefnrg *.tin10 *.hitsx store store *.trefxpos 794 store *.in6 958 *.numties *.memval *.tout9 159 360 .strbody store .tout4 rndstore 416 *.treffixed *.memval store *.timer *.shell *.refdx *.nrg 18107 > 7437 *.myshoot ^ .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 137 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 138 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.trefvelyourdn 5 .mkvenom store store 338 *.eye7 store .out8 ceilstore *.myvenom 6 518 .eye1dir store store substore *496 *.eye6 5476 547'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 159 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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14417 .mkpoison store start substore overbool ++ .tout3 store 6203 28460 absstore root 216 *.trefup inc 5 .up store 18340 *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 21 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 22 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 9 *841 multstore 159 .readtie store .mrepro store absstore *158 *.eye5 *.trefaimdx *.mydx *.refeye > !~= .setboy store start -6 .shoot ceilstore *25196 567 angle *.refveldx .dx addstore absstore 16350 *607 *515 21708 false 962 *.trefaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 58 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 59 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.tmemval 29701 .out8 ceilstore *.refshell *590 >= & *-467 swapbool *.dx false 962 *.trefaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.tmemval *.ypos 525 and add *.in5 431 *240 6415 != addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 85 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 86 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.myshoot negstore *.vtimer .out9 store *274 substore 534 *.shdx rnd swapbool addstore *.thisgene floorstore 23 *.veldn multstore *.hitdn *.hitdx 813 *.refvelsx < *.vel inc *.trefnrg *305 *.tin9 469 *.in8 *.trefxpos .out1 store *.in6 store *.ypos 1821 false .tielen1 store ++ 514 store 10921 *.memval *.refdx *.shell store 832 *.memval *.nrg 18107 > 7437 *.refdn floor .repro store *.in1 .out8 ceilstore *.myvenom addstore *7196 store *840 *.refveldn *.eye6 *496 *.tin6 663 *158 *.refmulti xor '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 159 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 26, 2022, 09:28:51 PM: another update, it seems to be going well though the stable population is trending down, it used to be in the 200s and now it's in the 150s. The bots look a lot fatter, like they're hoarding all the energy for themselves. Cancer explosions also seem much more common now, like they happen every minute, has the reproduction dna become more fragile? I'm pretty sure cannibalism has become mainstream, like 10% of bots are cannibals is my estimate. I no longer have to try really hard to look for them, i just zoom in on a bunch of bots and more often than not there's a cannibal there eating someone's butt. They never really take over though as they always, always eat their own children and waste sooooooo much energy chasing bots around while their shots are hitting nothing, and i have energy cost of shots turned up from 2 to 5, too. :wacko: At least they can sustain their population by eating plants, where the offspring has the chance to escape while their parents are busy eating. And also i assume there are constant additions to the ranks of cannibals from mutated bots messing up the part that tells them not to eat each other

3 best bots:

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.eye8dir store addstore *344 floorstore *.eye7 start *.refshoot 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 11 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else 531 *.tieang4 *850 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 15 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 16 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 13449 *.eye4 negstore *162 *.trefvelyourup *.in1 *.eye5 *.availability *.mydx *.refeye > !~= *.in2 *.in9 start -6 .shoot ceilstore 5 .tout1 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *344 floorstore 17930 2464 23925 substore sqrstore 1807 false stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 50 ''''''''''''''''''''''' *.trefvelyoursx 29301 store *.tmemval *.pleas rndstore 527 *.poison dist floor stop drop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 19824 12314 *29566 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 66 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 67 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2523 *.refsx *.tin8 *.reffixed *.ypos *.veldn multstore *771 *.nrg 586 *.shdx rnd swapbool addstore *.thisgene floorstore 30007 > 7437 *.trefxpos ^ .repro store 259 store .backshot store and *.eye1 store 4 6 518 418 *.eye1 *.in1'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 103 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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.sharewaste multstore *.eye7 start *.refsx 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else 531 *.tieang4 *.mass '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 13 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 13933 *.eye4 != *162 *.trefvelyourup *.in1 *.eye5 *.availability *.eye7 *.refeye > !~= .strbody store start -6 .shoot ceilstore inc .tielen1 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.thisgene floorstore .tielen3 store 28412 substore sqrstore 6153 false *.kills *.trefvelyoursx 29301 store *.tmemval *.pleas rndstore .aimright store dist floor stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 58 ''''''''''''''''''''''' drop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 60 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 19824 12314 *29566 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 64 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2523 585 *.tin8 *.reffixed swapbool 12699 3423 floorstore *.ypos *.veldn multstore *771 *.nrg 586 *.shdx rnd swapbool addstore *.thisgene floorstore 31948 > 7437 *.trefxpos ^ .repro store *.eye3 store .backshot store -- 6 and 30340 6 518 418 *.eye1 *.myshoot'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 104 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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.slime multstore *.eye7 start *.refsx 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else 531 *.tieang4 *.mass '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 13 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 13933 *.eye4 != *162 *.trefvelyourup *.in1 *.eye5 *.availability *.mydx *.refeye > !~= .strbody store start -6 .shoot ceilstore inc .tielen1 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.thisgene floorstore .tielen3 store 28412 substore sqrstore *.refvenom false *.kills *.trefvelyoursx 29301 store *.tmemval *.pleas rndstore 527 drop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 56 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 19824 12314 *29566 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 59 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 60 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2523 585 *.tin8 *.reffixed swapbool *.mydn 3423 floorstore *.ypos *.veldn multstore *771 *.nrg 586 *.shdx rnd swapbool addstore *.thisgene floorstore 31948 > 7437 *.trefxpos ^ .repro store *.eye3 store .backshot store -- 6 or *.refpoison 6 518 418 *.eye1 *.myshoot'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 100 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 27, 2022, 12:48:33 PM: these guys are NOT having a good time... XD
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on April 02, 2022, 11:52:15 PM: Quote from: hdggDalton on March 26, 2022, 09:28:51 PM
it seems to be going well though the stable population is trending down, it used to be in the 200s and now it's in the 150s.

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing; the most efficient strain isn't necessarily the most competitive strain.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 05, 2022, 09:45:45 PM: Quote from: Numsgil on April 02, 2022, 11:52:15 PM

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing; the most efficient strain isn't necessarily the most competitive strain.
initially I was a bit concerned that the trend would continue downwards, and that a lower population would mean higher chance of sudden mass extinction as well as lower diversity. However now it seems to have leveled out at 160-180, thanks to some very cool evolved behaviors; when two bots meet, they now shoot while running away backwards. I like this, it's the "live and let live" behavior, where the bot won't pursue you, but if you try, they'll make you pay for it. I had simulated about 10 million cycles while placing pixels on r/place to defend the German flag, and a lot could have happened up to now. I assume at some point there was a huge spike in cannibalism, and cannibal bots took over the population. Eventually one of them, instead of moving forwards when detecting another bot, mutated to move backwards instead, but kept shooting when doing so. Then the behavior took off, exponentially growing as when 2 bots with this behavior meet, they minimize energy losses by moving away from each other, whereas a real cannibal will make both of them lose tons of energy by commencing a chase. However, it's still better than 2 cannibals meeting each other, since they will basically engage in a fight to the death, and in the end the winner loses a lot of body points anyways. It's like the prisoner's dilemma, but the cooperation won out in the end. There is also another bot strain that was the majority a few posts ago, the pacifists that simply run away without shooting. I think they would win out in the end against the backshooters because they don't waste energy shooting whenever they see a bot. However, the pacifist behavior is completely non existent in the current simulation, so I predict that the cannibals killed them all before the backshooters emerged, then the backshooters took over. Running long simulations is so cool, it's like an evolutionary fish tank :D

Anyways, time for the 3 best bots of the post!!!
I had a really hard time finding a best bot other than this one, this one bot is a beast, he had 28 descendants out of a population of 162 so i think it's safe to say his bloodline is secure :)
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-91 *.tin7 ~= negstore *.refeye .eye8dir store *.rdboy store store 7525 *.memval mult mult root and store *.eye2 527 .mkpoison store 226 *.reftie store 627 546 *.tin4 *.treffixed store *.shell *.paralyzed or store 836 .out10 store & start *.treffixed 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.myshoot *359 5 start -6 .shoot store 816 *.paralyzed *.refdn 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store *.tin4 *.tieang store *911 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 71 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval | -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.maxvel *.refaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 79 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refpoison *.tielen2 1540 24709 *.veldn multstore divstore *.nrg 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 store .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 100 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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-91 *.tin7 ~= negstore *.refeye store 7525 6217 mult *.tin5 root and .eye8dir store *.rdboy store store *.eye2 527 .mkpoison store 226 *.ypos store 627 546 *.tin4 *.treffixed store *.shell *.paralyzed or store 836 .out10 store & start *.treffixed 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.tin3 *359 5 start -6 .shoot store 816 .eye4dir store 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store *.tin4 *.tieang store *911 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 71 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval | -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.maxvel *.refaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 79 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refpoison *.tielen2 1540 24709 *.veldn multstore divstore *.nrg 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 store .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 100 '''''''''''''''''''''''
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-91 *.tin7 ~= negstore *.refeye .eye8dir store *.rdboy store store 7525 *.memval mult mult root and store *.eye2 527 .mkpoison store 226 *.reftie store 627 546 *.tin4 *.refkills store *.shell *.paralyzed or store 836 .out10 store & start *.treffixed 5 .up store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.myshoot *359 5 start -6 .shoot store 816 *.paralyzed *.refdn 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store *.tin4 *.tieang store *911 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 71 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval | -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.maxvel *.refaimsx '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 79 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refpoison *.tielen2 1540 24709 *239 multstore divstore *.nrg 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 store .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 100 '''''''''''''''''''''''These other 2 bots were nowhere near as cool, with only 9 and 10 descendants each. The first bot literally has way more descendants than both of them COMBINED!!! :Headbang:
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 07, 2022, 01:46:52 AM: oh my god, holy sweet jeeeesus... what happened here??? why are there blue dots everywhere??? why do they all have blue rings around them??? the worst part is, it's not even the bots, it's the freaking plant species that i put in for food, they somehow mutated and killed everyone... i saved this simulation just for funsies but it runs at half of a cycle every second so i don't think i'mma actually keep running it. oh my god their dna is so long wtf

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start 16427 *.refveldx 16427 *.refveldx 4 overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store 832 -32 pyth dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 46 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 47 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *-526 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow 516 > *.tieang 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 87 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 88 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos rnd .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 - 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *381 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -29 sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 129 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 130 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 17531 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 166 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 167 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 4 *.refveldx 16427 addstore >> .vshoot floorstore *.refeye pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 198 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 199 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos ceil .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 >> *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 239 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 240 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos -124 addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye *.tieang .out2 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 266 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Begins at position 267 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.tin3 *-499 *.myties 832 -32 pyth sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Ends at position 303 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Begins at position 304 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *381 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -29 sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Ends at position 325 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Begins at position 326 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start divstore overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> 338 11 dup store *.refeye store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Ends at position 341 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 11 Begins at position 342 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *273 & store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 11 Ends at position 357 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 12 Begins at position 358 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup clearbool 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store *.in5 store .repro store *911 store *572 *.nrg 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 12 Ends at position 398 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 13 Begins at position 399 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx 4 .shareshell store .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 *.poison 832 -32 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 13 Ends at position 426 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 14 Begins at position 427 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *918 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 14 Ends at position 461 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 15 Begins at position 462 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start < *.availability 516 30200 31505 .mkchlr store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 15 Ends at position 470 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 16 Begins at position 471 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup clearbool 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 store *604 *.setboy 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 16 Ends at position 511 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 17 Begins at position 512 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx store *911 store .dx addstore >> 338 9524 *.myties *.rdboy store *.refeye *.in7 dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 store *572 *.nrg 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 17 Ends at position 557 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 18 Begins at position 558 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos 4 *.thisgene .mkvirus store addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup *.tieang pow 11 > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 18 Ends at position 600 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 19 Begins at position 601 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store store 9524 *.tin7 pyth store 15425 16427 *.myvenom .dx addstore ~ 333 store *.refeye *.thisgene ceilstore store floorstore 30007 > dup 11 pow *.tieang 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 19 Ends at position 658 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 20 Begins at position 659 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx 4 .out2 store .vshoot store *.refeye store dup clearbool 11 30200 516 > *.tieang pow 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 20 Ends at position 696 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 21 Begins at position 697 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.tout2 6000 > inc -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> dist store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang .out2 store 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 21 Ends at position 735 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 22 Begins at position 736 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx pow 11 dup *.trefypos != 516 30200 31505 *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.tin3 *.myties 832 -32 pyth sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 22 Ends at position 763 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 23 Begins at position 764 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot floorstore *.refeye pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 23 Ends at position 795 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 24 Begins at position 796 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *129 .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 4709 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene 335 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *381 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -29 sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 24 Ends at position 834 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 25 Begins at position 835 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 root '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 25 Ends at position 872 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 26 Begins at position 873 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.chlr *.availability start 837 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .aim addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 31505 30200 516 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store 300 .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store store *911 store 6000 sub *.in4 *.in4 468 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 26 Ends at position 921 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 27 Begins at position 922 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 27 Ends at position 961 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 28 Begins at position 962 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *.thisgene .mkvirus store *918 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth *.refveldx overbool *.refkills '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 28 Ends at position 1002 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 29 Begins at position 1003 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 50 .repro store 15 .aimright store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 29 Ends at position 1010 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 30 Begins at position 1011 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 - 516 30200 31505 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *381 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -29 sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 30 Ends at position 1054 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 31 Begins at position 1055 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 - 31505 dec *.thisgene 335 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *381 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -29 sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 31 Ends at position 1094 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 32 Begins at position 1095 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *.tin7 9524 *911 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 32 Ends at position 1128 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 33 Begins at position 1129 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 xor 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus rndstore 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 33 Ends at position 1169 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 34 Begins at position 1170 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refpoison 15425 16427 .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye *982 store dup 11 pow *.tieang > *.eyef *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 34 Ends at position 1205 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 35 Begins at position 1206 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup clearbool 11 30200 516 > *.tieang pow 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 35 Ends at position 1243 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 36 Begins at position 1244 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 15425 16427 >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store store 9524 *.tin7 pyth store 15425 16427 *.myvenom .dx addstore ~ 333 store *.refeye *.thisgene ceilstore store floorstore 30007 > dup 11 pow *.tieang 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 36 Ends at position 1301 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 37 Begins at position 1302 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.chlr *.availability start 837 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx & 17 addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye pow *.tieang > store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 31505 30200 516 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 store 6000 sub *.in4 > *.in4 468 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 37 Ends at position 1348 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 38 Begins at position 1349 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.tin10 overbool *.refkills .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 38 Ends at position 1385 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 39 Begins at position 1386 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 39 Ends at position 1423 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 40 Begins at position 1424 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 160 *.treffixed store 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 ceilstore *.trefvelyoursx .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 store *572 *.nrg 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> *.trefvelyourup store *.trefsx store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.tin3 *.myties 832 -32 pyth sqr '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 40 Ends at position 1500 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 41 Begins at position 1501 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties 832 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 41 Ends at position 1540 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 42 Begins at position 1541 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 16427 *.ypos 4 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 *.refkills 15425 16427 pow *.tieang > 516 17531 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .repro store addstore >> 340 *.out6 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 42 Ends at position 1586 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 43 Begins at position 1587 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx *.nrg 6000 > overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *.tin7 9524 *911 *.rdboy *.myties -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 43 Ends at position 1629 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 44 Begins at position 1630 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 .tienum store addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 pow *.tieang > 516 30200 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store 800 true store .repro store *911 *.tin7 -32 pyth '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 44 Ends at position 1666 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 45 Begins at position 1667 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 834 *.refeye *.myties 15425 16427 *.refveldx .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup clearbool 11 30200 516 > *.tieang pow 31505 ceilstore *.thisgene .mkvirus store .out1 store .repro store *911 6000 > *.in4 *.nrg 6000 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 45 Ends at position 1704 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 46 Begins at position 1705 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start -637 16427 *.refveldx overbool *.refkills 15425 16427 *.ypos .dx addstore >> .vshoot store *.refeye store dup 11 15425 16427 pow *.tieang > 516 17531 31505 dec *.thisgene .mkvirus store .repro store *911 9524 *.tin7 *.rdboy *.myties -32 > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 46 Ends at position 1743 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on April 08, 2022, 03:21:17 AM: I think those are viruses. Which is interesting in its own way, but yeah maybe not what you were going for.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 10, 2022, 01:35:22 PM: edit: i need some help, the graphs are broken, it says i have the population and average mutations graph running but when i click on them nothing happens, i can't even see them, do you know how to fix this? the other graphs are fine btw

yea i restarted from a previous save and introduced a really steep cost for dna copying since i think that's the cost to make a virus, hopefully they won't completely take over again. At one point there was a bot species that became plants but since they didn't grow super fast i kept them to see what happened. Unfortunately they died out over time both due to inefficient method of making chloroplasts (i think they could only make chloroplasts if they saw natural algae) and some of the bots evolving to eat them. In the end the bots that evolved to eat them died also because it meant they would cannibalize their children, since the bot plants were considered the "same" species. After that there was a struggle between a species of velvet colored bots and some green chalk colored bots. The green chalk boys won out and took over the map, and I think this is because of their mutated ability to make some body whenever they saw something like another bot or plant. This adds up and gives them an advantage in feeding and fighting against the velvet bots. All of these are green chalk bots, though they might have some differences due to mutations and such:

This one's got the heart of the champion with 29 descendants out of a population of 190
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rndstore rnd store *.tieang angle 1 *.myvenom *.veldx sgnstore .out2 store 31198 .reffixed divstore *.eye2 floorstore *488 <= .vshoot store store = *1172 383 ++ 528 *582 *.shdn ceilstore stop divstore ^ 532 - ^ - ++ start *.refxpos 3 .up addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > ~ .tout8 inc start -6 .shoot store 818 331 .out4 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye store *.myaimdx *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 1 450 *.in3 7814 divstore ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else swapbool true addstore *488 <= | pow substore ^ '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 85 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 86 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refdn floorstore %= not *-735 pyth addstore 24709 *.veldn multstore 4701 *.nrg 516 30200 32000 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 109 '''''''''''''''''''''''
This one has 18 descendants out of a population of 170, not bad at all
Code: [Select]
rndstore rnd store *.tieang angle 1 *.myvenom *.veldx sgnstore .out2 store 31198 .reffixed divstore *.eye2 floorstore *488 <= .vshoot store store = *1172 383 ++ 528 *582 *.shdn ceilstore stop divstore ^ true not cos & ~ 566 ^ 532 - ^ - ++ start *.refxpos 3 .up addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 50 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > ~ .tout8 inc start -6 .shoot store 818 331 .out4 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye store *.myaimdx *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 1 450 *.in3 7814 divstore ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 81 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 82 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 83 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else swapbool true addstore *488 <= | pow substore ^ '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 92 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 93 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refdn floorstore %= not *-735 pyth addstore 24709 *.veldn multstore 4701 *.nrg 516 30200 32000 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 116 '''''''''''''''''''''''
And this one has 11 descendants out of a population of 170, still pretty good
Code: [Select]
rndstore rnd store *.tieang angle 1 *.myvenom *.veldx sgnstore .out2 store 31198 .reffixed divstore *.eye2 floorstore *488 <= .vshoot store store = *1172 383 ++ 528 *582 *.shdn ceilstore stop divstore ^ 532 - ^ - ++ start *.refxpos 3 .up addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > ~ .tout8 inc start -6 .shoot store 818 331 .out4 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye store *.myaimdx *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 1 450 *.in3 7814 divstore ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else swapbool true addstore *488 <= 338 | pow substore ^ '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 86 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 87 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refdn floorstore %= not *-735 pyth addstore 24709 *.veldn multstore *.trefage *.nrg 516 30200 32000 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13337 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 110 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on April 10, 2022, 08:11:40 PM: Quote from: hdggDalton on April 10, 2022, 01:35:22 PM
edit: i need some help, the graphs are broken, it says i have the population and average mutations graph running but when i click on them nothing happens, i can't even see them, do you know how to fix this? the other graphs are fine btw

I don't know off hand what might have happened. Have you tried saving and restarting the program? It might be in a funky state.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 11, 2022, 11:09:53 PM: Quote from: Numsgil on April 10, 2022, 08:11:40 PM
I don't know off hand what might have happened. Have you tried saving and restarting the program? It might be in a funky state.

no matter what I do, even when I restart and/or reload, the population and mutation graphs still won't show up!!! but it's so weird because when i open up cheat engine and search up processes, they're there. oh well i still got around it by using the customizable graphs. By the way everyone's blue now so yeah there's that
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on April 18, 2022, 12:52:46 AM: My guess is some counter is overflowing its 16 or 32 bit bounds? You could try starting a new simulation with the same bots, although it's sad to lose some historical data, I know.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 19, 2022, 01:55:42 PM: it's so weird but yesterday i got an error so i saved it and loaded it back up, but when i loaded the simulation the population and average mutations graphs were back!!! they've been missing for years oh my god

anyways i enabled friction so now they can't slide all over the place anymore because they eventually come to a stop. despite this the bots have adapted quite nicely, and there has even been an increase in species diversity because now the map is much bigger even though i didn't actually make it bigger, it just takes a lot more effort to travel around than before. there's 2 dominant species, this dark blue one that's almost indistinguishable from the background (i had a black species once - it was fun trying to see them) that inhabits the southeast part of the map, this lavender one which inhabits the rest of the map, and even this small prospective yellow species in the west. the population is much higher as well because now the algae don't get instantly eaten and have a chance to reproduce, creating huge fields of algae resulting in higher overall energy. though this also created a little problem for the bots, who tended to keep diving straight into these massive piles and die from eating too much (low waste threshold of 1000). usually the bots get rid of their waste by reproducing, but when deep inside a forest of algae, there's no room to reproduce so they just kept collecting waste until they died. it was so bad that huge groups of algae WITHOUT ANY DEFENSES could paradoxically stick around for a good while just because everything that tried to eat them died. I think they're getting better at it though, because big clumps of algae don't stick around for long anymore, either the bots snake their way through the algae until they kill one and have space to reproduce and it's off to the races from there, or if there are a bunch of bots around, a few will burrow deep and kill a bunch of algae until they die, clearing enough room so that the rest can more safely eat the remaining algae since they have enough space to reproduce and dilute the waste. the standoff behavior of the bots backing away from each other while shooting is still widespread, and i've seen it put to good use on a few occasions where the bots killed cannibals pursuing them without taking a scratch in return. through sometimes it gets freaky when bots get trapped in a small space by the randomly moving shapes, they wiggle around frantically and without space to run away eventually start eating each other, and the biggest usually comes out alive

anyways its time for BEST BOTS!
13 descendants out of a population of 270. 5% of the population is not bad at all, though this one has his vision messed up because i think they survived having too much waste for only a little bit but it screwed them up permanently
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swap 528 *.mypoison *404 *.trefnrg substore 30007 > *.velscalar .out10 store store rnd *.eye2 floorstore over 3411 -814 != dupbool sgnstore cos *.vel sgn divstore *.availability overbool .eye6width store 14 angle !%= clear 444 -636 480 start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 41 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.refdn *.hitdn inc start -6 .shoot store .eye1width store 12119 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.availability *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 450 *.reffixed ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.in9 *.trefaim 1831 300 9198 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 81 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 24709 *.veldn multstore *.trefage *.nrg 516 30200 28503 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store -- '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 99 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 100 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *-314 false sgn multstore %= !~= '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 106 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 107 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else drop ~'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 109 '''''''''''''''''''''''With significantly less messed up vision, 12 descendants out of a population of 240! Also 5% so hey thats pretty decent. Also had 67.68 shell but that's probably an accident from the waste seeping into their dna
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swap 528 *367 *404 *.trefnrg substore 30007 > *.velscalar .out10 store store rnd *.eye2 floorstore over 3411 -814 != dupbool sgnstore cos *.vel sgn divstore *.availability overbool .eye6width store 14 angle !%= clear 444 -636 480 start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 41 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.refdn *.hitdn inc start -6 .shoot store .eye1width store 12119 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.availability *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 450 *.reffixed ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.in9 *.trefaim 1831 300 9198 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 80 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 81 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 24709 *.veldn multstore *.trefage *.nrg 516 30200 28503 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store -- '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 99 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 100 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *-314 false sgn multstore %= !~= '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 106 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 107 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else drop ~'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 109 '''''''''''''''''''''''Oh my god, this one also has messed up vision, anyways 16 descendants out of a population of 230 so this is actually the best (7%)
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swap 528 *367 *404 *.trefnrg *.velscalar .out10 store store rnd *.eye2 floorstore *.refvenom else -814 != dupbool sgnstore cos *.vel sgn divstore *.availability overbool .eye6width store 14 angle !%= clear 444 -636 480 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 33 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 34 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 38 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.refdn *.hitdn inc start -6 .shoot store .eye1width store 12119 store *.refveldx .dx addstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.availability *.trefvelmysx .strbody inc 450 *.reffixed ^ > '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 70 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.memval '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 71 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.in9 *.trefaim 1831 300 9198 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 78 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 24709 *.veldn multstore *.trefage *.nrg 516 30200 28503 ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store multstore %= !~= '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 98 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 99 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else drop ~'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 101 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on April 30, 2022, 01:20:45 AM: oh great, what the hell, now the graphs are broken again :burnup: :burnup: :burnup: :burnup: :burnup:

anyways hello im back after a few more million cycles, i expanded the map yesterday and some wild things happened... first of course there was a wild landgrab because new spawned algae in the new area could grow really large because there wasn't anything eating them, there was one colony in the bottom right that took over like 1/16 of the map, but eventually got eaten once all the bots got in there, an interesting development was this small species of cannibals that grew in the new top right area, when i panned over to see them there was a group of 3 fighting to the death and another 5 just chilling, unfortunately for them they all died because if they went after their highland cannibal comrades they both waste tons of energy fighting, and if they went after the non homicidal bots they would just get parthian shotted to death, they would be chasing them but getting shot in the face the whole time while none of their own shots land. they probably developed out of a mutated cannibal bot that found itself stuffed in a big bunch of algae, so they and their children were fine for a while cause they were all busy eating algae but once it ran out it was hunger games 2 electric boogaloo for them XDDD average population has increased from 250ish to the low 300s now that there's more space and less energy wasted shooting at each other, but i did instigate a massive famine while writing this and wow population has fallen to 210, oh wait no wow they recovered back up to 290, amazing, i really underestimated the power of the equilibrium point

there's an image of 3 bots stuck in a death box, there used to be 4 but i guess the other one died (spooky!) there's an image of the bots feeding on some algae, a picture of the whole map, and a picture of a random bot who mutated to become a plant, don't worry he can't reproduce so im just gonna keep him around, holy crap he's 273,000 cycles old, this dude has literally survived 0.383% of the entire simulation (71307000 cycles) and the last time i checked the average age of a bot it was something like 13000 cycles old, dang exactly 21 generations have passed this bot must feel so old, anyways imma just copy his dna for funsies:
interesting, after some observation of this bot, it seems like he does this weird purging thing where once he reaches 30k energy, he purges 5k energy, maybe that's how he stays alive because that way he doesn't collect waste, what a smart bot :D
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store store start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 7 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.hitsx *.hitdn inc start -6 *.kills 24413 multstore .shoot store .eye1width ceilstore .aimright store *.kills .dx multstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.eye4 1010 *-879 %= rnd *.velscalar store *.trefvelmysx *.reffixed ^ multstore inc *.trefup '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 46 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 47 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else 535 dupbool '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 50 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.bodloss floorstore *.trefage .tout3 store & addstore *-39 13531 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 59 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 60 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else *.in4 clearbool -- 366 *622 over '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 66 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 67 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 23283 *.veldn multstore *.nrg 516 *.refaim *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > .mkchlr store store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 83 '''''''''''''''''''''''
here are the best bots:
25 descendants out of a population of 280, pretty good
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divstore store start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 7 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.hitsx *.hitdn inc start -6 *.kills -1 multstore .shoot store .eye1width store .aimright store *.kills .dx multstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.eye4 809 22510 *.sun *.hitsx *.hitdn inc *.reffixed -19 sub inc multstore 1010 535 dupbool '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 48 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else multstore floorstore *.trefage 528 13531 *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 57 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 58 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else store 455 -- 366 *622 *-39 addstore -- *.memval over '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 23283 *.veldn multstore *.nrg 516 *.refaim *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 85 '''''''''''''''''''''''12 descendants out of a population of 200
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divstore store start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 7 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.hitsx *.hitdn inc start -6 *.kills -1 multstore .shoot store .eye1width store .aimright store *.kills .dx multstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.eye4 809 22510 *.sun *.hitsx *.hitdn inc *.reffixed -19 sub inc multstore 1010 535 dupbool '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 48 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else multstore floorstore *.trefage 528 13531 *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 57 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 58 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else store 455 -- 366 *622 *-39 addstore -- *.memval over '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 23283 *.veldn multstore *.nrg 516 *.refaim *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 85 '''''''''''''''''''''''At a ripe young age of 500 cycles, this bot already had 23 descendants out of a population of 310. This bot I found during an explosion of algae and next to a huge mass of algae so that explains it pretty well
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divstore store start *.refxpos 3 *.mass addstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 7 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.refeye > *.hitsx *.hitdn inc start -6 *.kills -1 multstore .shoot store .eye1width store .aimright store *.kills .dx multstore *.refeye *.dnalen .up addstore store *.eye4 809 22510 *.sun *.hitsx *.hitdn inc *.reffixed -19 sub inc multstore 1010 535 dupbool '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 48 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 49 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else multstore floorstore *.trefage 528 13531 *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 57 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 58 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else store 455 -- 366 *622 *-39 addstore .eye9width store over '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.refaim 23283 *.veldn multstore *.nrg 516 *.refaim *.ypos ceilstore *.thisgene substore 30007 > 13562 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 85 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on May 14, 2022, 12:48:31 PM: still alive! first thing you'll notice is that everyone's purple now, i got a bit bored and wanted to unleash chaos so i just turned up the mutations to 4x and voila they changed! these bots are much more tenacious scavengers than previously because they never seem to stand still, i'd assume that searching for food more vigorously is a great advantage and that's one trait selected for, and that's got me thinking, in which direction will this evolutionary arms race go? will they find new ingenious ways to find food? or will they just take the short route and begin to cannibalize even more aggressively than their current standoff "shoot and back away" strategy? the simulation is now 89,212,000 cycles old, the equilibrium point i'd say has fallen to about 200, no doubt because all that searching takes up more energy but results in greater self advantage, but now instead of spawning a constant stream of plants every few cycles, every 1000 cycles 15 plants get spawned in, so it's like a big wave. as a result the population fluctuates very heavily as they go from starving to feasting on food and back again. the population range i estimate to be from about 170 to 230 most of the time, it reached 300 once when a huge batch of algae was trapped in the top left corner by shapes with no bots, but the shapes squeezed the plants out so the bots suddenly had a massive influx of food, in fact i think i got the tail end of that surge in a screenshot, you can see a lot of fat bots in the top left corner, but eventually they all died because in their eating spree they had mutated and lost the ability to move around to search for food, now that didn't matter when they were swimming in it, but when it was all gone, it became a really bad disadvantage against the tenacious scavengers inhabiting the rest of the map who were moving around all the time.

aight it's time for 3 of the best bots!!!
21 descendants out of a population of 210
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*.hitup 9217 start *.refveldx -187 *.mass inc *.trefvelyourdx !%= swap 11414 %= ~= dec -306 *-180 true '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.trefvelyourup > .setboy store 3097 -6 start and .shoot store *.trefvelmydn *.hitsx dist sgn 5341 775 *395 .memloc store != sin store 13696 14938 *.refeye *.refvelscalar .up addstore store *.eye1 10466 dropbool 200 .sharechlr store -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 56 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc sub -1172 *.daytime *.refvelup store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 62 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start sqr 794 216 *.xpos 3423 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2457 *.veldn | multstore *.nrg *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 809 27437 *.tin2 2445 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 86 '''''''''''''''''''''''23 descendants out of a population of 230
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*.hitup 9217 start *.refveldx -187 *.mass inc *.tieang2 *.refeye swap 11414 %= ~= dec -306 *-180 true '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.trefvelyourup > .setboy store 3097 -6 start and .shoot store *.trefvelmydn *.hitsx dist sgn 5341 775 *395 474 *.mysx != sin store 13696 14938 *.refeye *.refvelscalar .up addstore store *.eye1 10466 dropbool 200 .sharechlr store -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 56 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc sub -1172 *.daytime *.refvelup store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 62 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start sqr 794 true *.shell store 216 *.xpos 3423 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 71 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 72 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2457 *.veldn | multstore *.nrg *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 809 27437 *.tin2 2445 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 89 '''''''''''''''''''''''23 descendants out of a population of 220
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*.hitup 9217 start *.refveldx -187 *.mass inc *.trefvelyourdx !%= swap 11414 %= ~= dec -306 *-180 true '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.trefvelyourup > .setboy store 3097 -6 start and .shoot store *.trefvelmydn *.hitsx dist sgn 5341 775 *395 .memloc store != sin store 13696 14938 *.refeye *.refvelscalar .up addstore store *.eye1 10466 dropbool 200 .sharechlr store -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 56 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc sub -1172 *.daytime *.refvelup store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 62 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start sqr 794 216 *.xpos 3423 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2457 *.veldn | multstore *.nrg *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 809 27437 *.tin2 2445 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 86 '''''''''''''''''''''''And because I'm not sure some of these are duplicates, here's one more. 21 descendants out of a population of 190
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*.hitup 9217 start *.refveldx -187 *.mass inc *.trefvelyourdx !%= swap 11414 %= ~= dec -306 *-180 true '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.eye5 *.trefvelyourup > .setboy store 3097 -6 start and .shoot store *.trefvelmydn *.hitsx dist sgn 5341 775 *395 .memloc store != sin store 13696 14938 *.refeye *.refvelscalar .up addstore store *.eye1 10466 dropbool 200 .sharechlr store -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 55 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 56 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc sub -1172 *.daytime *.refvelup store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 62 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 63 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start sqr 794 216 *.xpos 3423 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 68 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 69 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start 2457 *.veldn | multstore *.nrg *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 809 27437 *.tin2 2445 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 86 '''''''''''''''''''''''A reasonable general trend seems to be that the best bots' descendants make up around 10%-11% of the population, which is a good sign because that means there's a lot of genetic diversity and it's not all dominated by one particular bloodline
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on May 14, 2022, 01:26:41 PM: It's looking really good. This is probably the longest anyone has run a simulation. I don't know the record or anything but I don't remember anyone running ~100M cycles.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on May 26, 2022, 12:22:27 AM: Quote from: Numsgil on May 14, 2022, 01:26:41 PM
It's looking really good. This is probably the longest anyone has run a simulation. I don't know the record or anything but I don't remember anyone running ~100M cycles.
really? cause i just broke it, i got 106.422 million cycles :D

before talking about the simulation i would like to share one interesting strain which unfortunately i think is about to be driven to extinction: the energy sharer. they used to be pretty common but now i had to actively hunt this one down. the only way to share energy is through ties and the only time these bots are tied are when they have children, it's interesting to see this one strain share energy... but only giving itself a 5% share. so any bot that removed the part where they shared energy would have a huge advantage just getting 95% of the parent's energy, i think the most common strain now is one where ".sharenrg" is swapped with "swapbool", really unfortunate because if it was set at 40 or 50 or something then we could have seen the start of energy sharing... but no, it's 5. well i guess thats how it goes.
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ok so i've made food even more seasonal, it only drops every 4001 cycles, but i do make it more overall by giving 50 plants every time. i'm really interested to see where this will go, because huge fluctuations in population and energy usually lend themselves to genetic diversity and fiercer natural selection. i still force the sun to go up at 200,000 energy though because i think that's the point where it's in danger of complete collapse where the plants all gather up in one spot where all the bots have died and everyone just starves to death. besides the energy sharer, there's this small vibrant purple species/strain that's struggling a lot, with just a few small bots, from what i've observed i think their shtick is that they don't really adhere to the shoot while moving away strategy the rest of the bots have, more like shoot while not really caring, which intrigued me because it seems a step closer to cannibalism, here's one of them:
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oh hey the vibrant purple bots are energy sharers too, they might still be hope for developing energy sharing if they didn't have like 3 members out of 200, as in the ENTIRE SPECIES.

equilibrium point has gone down even more since i made food more seasonal, down to about 150-200, but i'm confident over time the population will adapt and recover, maybe even establish sustainable farming who knows

best bots time 8)

18 descendants out of a population of 165
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20 descendants out of a population of 202
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start -187 rndstore -187 2457 *.mass inc *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 228 floor *.trefvelmysx *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 13 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 14 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond *.bodgain > 6003 -919 -919 3097 -6 3097 -6 start and .shoot store *.refeye *.refvelscalar .up addstore store *.tieang2 *.tielen2 < <= .up store -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 40 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 41 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 42 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 31456 .eye2width store 794 sqr start *.veldn | multstore *.nrg ++ *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > *.nrg 29721 *.totalbots ++ 4 12531 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 67 '''''''''''''''''''''''
18 descendants out of a population of 204
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Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on June 29, 2022, 07:24:21 PM: hey yall, im back at 153.118 million cycles. because of some hiccups with plants developing shell and/or fooling the conspec eye recognition system by literally just tacking on one eye gene that does absolutely nothing and consequently spreading all over the map unmolested, i lowered the mutation rate to 1x and when it still happened again i turned plant mutations off entirely. I still kept the 1x mutations despite the bots actually evolving really low mutation rates (before, the default was 4x) because i wanted to try something new, instead of a barrage of mutations i would use time and only the most beneficial mutations would make it through, at least i hoped.

I think it works, there have been some really interesting things going on, given the dynamic of tons of food but spawning only every 10100 cycles (the extra 100 is there so it doesn't match up with the day/night cycle of 1000, just to make things more interesting) so it's like seasonal. First, the bots have split up into 2 distinct species, the first and most dominant is our good old friend the scavengers, who move around randomly and try to find plants (or corpses of their dead comrades) to feed on. They explicitly don't attack other bots and actually run away from other bots.

There was an interesting strategy that branched off of the scavenger species. This was a mini species that would just sit still and do nothing, and wait until food spawned next to them. I call them couch potatoes, probably from the result of a mutation that removed their ability to search around and look for food. Because moving around takes energy, and it could be 10100 cycles before you even get any new food, this strategy actually kind of makes sense at first. Plus, you have all your non-moving comrades right next to you, so in hard times, you can just eat the corpses of your mates once they starve to death, they're free food! Unfortunately, the math did not work out for the couch potatoes. 10100 cycles means losing at least 10100 energy waiting for food to spawn next to you, and it might not even spawn next to you at all. And, if a plant did spawn next to a couch potato, they would just eat it immediately without letting it grow and make more energy in the long run. Each plant starts with 5000 energy. Now, I'm not a nobel prize winning mathematician or anything, but the couch potatoes, even if 2 plants spawned next to them (which is even more unlikely than just 1 plant) they would only be able to almost even out their energy balance. And once they ran out of fellow couch potatoes to eat, then what? TLDR they all died, the end. :D

Enough about the couch potatoes, they've been extinct for hundreds of thousands of cycles. Remember that way back in this simulation, there was a bot that ran away from other bots while shooting at them? I believe that was an adaptation that rose out of a significant part of the population being cannibals, but then all the cannibals died and all that was left were the bots that shot while running away... and then I speculate that eventually that ability was lost because it was better not to shoot and waste energy (shooting costs are high, 5 per shot which is to heavily punish incontenent bots that just shot all the time and lagged the simulation to all hell, and once all the bots lost the ability to control their shots it was basically impossible for them to evolve it back) both from missing shots and fighting each other.

But that's led to the rise of a small but fierce species of green cannibal bots that have survived for a few dozen million cycles at least. They seek out plants, corpses, and bots, not discriminating between species. They'll happily eat their parents or children, but most of the time get it right and eat some unfortunate scavenger. Not that they're usually 100% successful, though. The scavengers may not shoot back anymore, but they still run away from other bots which massively improves their chances of survival. Most of the time, the cannibals are small and weak because they generally shave each others' body points off when they encounter each other. So, more often than not their target gets away, but the cannibal still gets some energy from them.

While the cannibals do eat plants, I believe they make their niche in the plant-less environment after all the spawned plants have run out, and everyone is just waiting for the next batch of plants. While the scavengers' food sources are reduced to only corpses of other scavengers or cannibals, cannibals have corpses AND scavengers AND other cannibals. Actually, what would normally be a huge waste of energy (eating members of your species) merely becomes condensation of energy into fewer bots. Because each bot has a flat 1 energy cost of living every cycle, plus a little bit more depending on how long their DNA is and how much body they have, this actually kind of becomes an advantage in really lean times to save the entire species more energy in the long run, and times can get REALLY lean when you have to wait 10100 cycles for more energy to be introduced into the system. I think I saw once the total number of bots drop to something as low as 40 or 30, and this in a simulation where the population averages 150-300, it almost made me crap myself because I would have to go back to a really old save to start again if everyone died. Good thing the big drop of food happened right as it reached that point. I think if plants were introduced regularly so that there was a steady supply of food, the cannibals would be inefficient in that new environment so they would just die off to the more efficient scavengers, who don't waste energy infighting or chasing and shooting at other bots and each other.

Now, cannibal bots are nothing new. They spring up all the time, from the results of some unfortunate mutation. But this almost never spreads, because all the mutation does is remove the ability for the cannibals to differentiate between plants and bots, so they treat everything they see as plants and try to eat it. The cannibals always eat their own children, or get eaten by their children. They might be able to survive for a bit in very very small numbers, but the insane waste of energy caused by eating your offspring as soon as you give birth to them (also true in real life) means the numbers are stacked against them, and they always snuff themselves out at one point or another due to starvation and not being able to spread around their genes enough.

But these green cannibals wouldn't have survived that long if that were the case. They have a little secret weapon, they know when they're tied to something, and since nothing in this simulation uses ties, being tied must mean that the bot is either recently born, or recently had a child. When they're tied to something, they basically shut off and don't shoot anything at all even when surrounded by plants, instead I think there's actually some different things that happen depending on the particular strain of species. Some harmlessly spin around, some try to move in one direction only to separate from the parent/child, and confusingly, some do both, but switch between methods randomly. This little bit doesn't seem like much, considering the fact that once the ties are off, it's back to shooting everything on sight, and some bots do get sucked back into fighting anyways, but it's enough to at least give a better than 50/50 chance that the parent and child both live, which is the entire point of reproduction.

I think the fact that they can't shoot at all when tied is a massive help, because a lot of familial cannibalism happens within the first few cycles of birth, where the bots are perfectly next to and exactly facing each other, and if the bots can get some distance from each other, then that's a greatly increased chance of both just going on their merry way, AND I've observed that even in the cases where they DO get sucked back into each other, it's usually only a glancing blow because they have speed so they're running into, then past each other, therefore losing sight in the process. Even if the 2 bots would happily go after each other without the ties, It's still pretty impressive how this one small behavior can allow a cannibal species to live and thrive, where they usually kill themselves. One more thing I want to note is that this does decrease their efficiency when diving deep into piles of plants, because they have to wait for the ties to wear off before they can continue feeding. That's one more reason why if plants were introduced regularly instead of in big batches with nothing in between, the cannibals would die out to the more efficient scavengers, which can reproduce AND feed at the same time.

Ok, 2 best bots, and 2 handpicked green cannibals because the best bots are all scavengers

37 descendants out of a population of 270? Holy crap
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store store *.tin9 *.tielen2 < 481 sub *.refveldx != *.refage *.shang 3106 * sub 419 -19 start '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.trefaimdx store *.tin9 *.eye2 < <= ++ inc store 469 *.refmulti substore stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 31 ''''''''''''''''''''''' 432 ceil * rndstore *.refmulti -6 *.genes '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond store 300 *.mydn *.tielen2 254 div 2 *600 *.refveldx inc 1 *.refvelsx *.eye5 *.venom '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 53 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 54 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond > *.bodloss .fixang store -6 3097 -6 start 7 *.refvelscalar *.refeye addstore .up store store *.trefvelyourup *.tielen2 < <= 1 -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 78 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond .strbody store start *.veldn | multstore *.nrg ++ *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 553 sgnstore 446 11194 *.refshoot '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 96 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 97 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start swapbool | << '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 100 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Begins at position 101 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.veldn | *.mypoison *.nrg *.nrg '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Ends at position 106 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Begins at position 107 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start swapbool | << '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Ends at position 110 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Begins at position 111 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.veldn | *.mypoison *.nrg *.refshoot 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Ends at position 119 '''''''''''''''''''''''
This guy seems to be doing well. 4 descendants out of a population of 260, but he seems perfectly functional and is diving into a pile of plants as we speak
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*.shang *.refage != *.refveldx sub 481 < *.tielen2 *.tin9 store store 3106 * sub 419 -19 start '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 17 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 18 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.trefaimdx store *.tin9 *.eye2 < <= ++ inc store 469 *.refmulti substore stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 31 ''''''''''''''''''''''' 432 ceil * rndstore *.refmulti -6 *.genes '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond store 300 *.mydn *.tielen2 254 div 2 *600 *.refveldx inc 1 *.refvelsx *.eye5 *.venom '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 53 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 54 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond > *.bodloss .fixang store -6 3097 -6 start 7 *.refvelscalar *.refeye addstore .up store store *.trefvelyourup *.tielen2 < <= 1 -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 77 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Begins at position 78 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond .strbody store start *.veldn | multstore *.nrg ++ *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > 553 sgnstore 446 11194 *.refshoot '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 6 Ends at position 96 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 97 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start swapbool *.dnalen << '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 100 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Begins at position 101 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.veldn | *.mypoison *.nrg *.nrg '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Ends at position 106 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Begins at position 107 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start swapbool | << '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Ends at position 110 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Begins at position 111 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.veldn | *.mypoison *.nrg *.refshoot 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Ends at position 119 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Alright, here's a cannibal, 4 descendants out of a population of 250 which is pretty high for the cannibals, which make up about 10% of the population I'd say, so 25
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!~= *.nrg *.shdn 20314 48 *.shflav *.refvelscalar *.numties addstore addstore *.numties .tielen1 store addstore 522 *.refdn start .up store ++ inc *.tiepres '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 22 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 23 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.shang 20838 *.numties *241 cos 7 30823 *.numties addstore *.vel not %= .memloc store *.eye5 *.venom '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 40 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond > cos != store 5 -6 3097 -6 start 7 *.refvelscalar *.numties addstore .up store store > substore 1 not %= *.tin9 | dec <= div pow *321 *.eye3 .vloc store 1 -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond .strbody store start *.veldn | multstore *.nrg ++ *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > *.nrg 17722 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 94 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Some time has passed now, second cannibal, 2 descendants out of a population of 180
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!~= *.nrg *.shdn 20314 48 *.shflav *.refvelscalar *.numties addstore addstore *.numties .tielen1 store addstore 522 *.refdn start .up store ++ inc *.tiepres '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 22 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 23 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.shang 20838 *.numties *241 cos 7 30823 *.numties addstore *.vel not %= .memloc store *.eye5 *.venom '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 39 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 40 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond > cos != store 5 -6 3097 -6 start 7 *.refvelscalar *.numties addstore .up store store > substore 1 not %= *.tin9 | dec <= div pow *321 *.eye3 .vloc store 1 -19 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 73 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 74 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start inc '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 75 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Begins at position 76 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond .strbody store start *.veldn | multstore *.nrg ++ *.totalbots *.thisgene substore 30007 > *.nrg 17722 14938 .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 5 Ends at position 94 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on August 21, 2022, 12:27:18 AM: My friends. I am afraid to say that this long running simulation has come to an end at 234.870 million cycles. The bots' DNA have grown so long that the simulation runs at crawling speed. Furthermore it seems that the mutations spiralled out of control with the growing DNA length, presumably causing irreversible loss of basic living functions combined with an unfortunately timed dip in the population which caused genetic drift to have a huge, exaggerated effect on the small guaranteed population of 15 (at less than 15 bots energy costs are disabled to prevent complete extinction).

A small, anemic population of 10-20 insanely mutated bots still persists, but this is only thanks to the guarantee of at least 15 bots living and the sheer abundance of plants that allow much less than optimal feeding behaviors. All of the bots have lost the scavenger mentality of randomly moving and spinning around, then locking onto a food source once one is found. In fact before everything started going downhill the bots evolved an ability that was lost from the original animal minimalis common ancestor: the ability to stay still while eating, increasing feeding efficiency since they get more energy shots instead of having them bounce around everywhere.

But now all the bots run straight forward, while turning slightly, which dooms them since it gives them even less vision of their surroundings than randomly spinning around would.

I noticed the sharp rise in DNA length days before, but thought that the DNA length energy penalty (0.0001) would be enough to eventually shave off unnecessary DNA. But i guess it wasn't enough and by the time the DNA had grown in length to the thousands i panicked and multiplied the penalty by 5, the small differences in energy loss between a bot with 1600 DNA length and a bot with 1590 DNA length weren't enough of a selection pressure and actually had a disasterous impact on EVERYONE, it was too late. I basically admitted defeat and turned the DNA length penalty back down to the original since it was threatening to wipe out all of the bots, hoping that maybe at least some cool shit would evolve, and somewhere in between there and now, the simulation irreversibly collapsed.

I don't have a save that goes back enough and even if I did, it would still probably happen anyway because I turned on the option that lets the bots mutate their mutation rates, and it just so happens they pump up the mutation rate for amplification (copy pasting your own dna) and insertion (creating new OG dna) way up and made the deletion mutations so rare and so benign that genetic drift and the law of averages took over. God damn, at least now I know not to let them mess with the mutation rates

Yeah im probably just going to make a new simulation from scratch but with a much higher DNA length penalty that matters much more when bots only have 50-100 length dna so it's a credible selection pressure, and also turn off the changing mutation rates. I put a picture, and a sample of the ridiculously long 22k+ length DNA of one of the super mutant bots here. Calling it DNA is an extremely charitable description as almost all of it is junk. If you think this is long, it is merely a sample of 30% of its DNA, posting all of ONE bot's DNA, let alone THE SIMULATION FILE is impossible because it crashed my browser XD

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absstore 415 dup '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Begins at position 3442 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else -- '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 7 Ends at position 3443 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Begins at position 3444 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else dec store *.trefaimsx .up store sgnstore *.trefvelyourdx *.hitup *-22 *.multi store .tmemloc store *.trefshoot dupbool ~ *.bodgain *.tin6 29481 inc *8302 808 and floorstore rndstore << 488 multstore store drop *512 *.dn * *.tin3 *.multi *.velscalar *8302 -122 %= 339 *.edge overbool inc ceil 836 overbool rndstore -587 -- *.refshoot *.eyef sgnstore *110 5723 ^ anglecmp absstore 832 216 *.trefaimdx 820 dist > root sin 480 *.refxpos 480 521 11714 *753 475 *680 dupbool *.trefaimdx 25487 *.refvelsx 1195 *.trefaimdx *.paralyzed ceil inc sin 87 ++ 322 521 *.sun sgnstore < *.dn *.myaimsx negstore abs .up absstore 7417 *.trefdn -122 %= .genes store *.vel negstore *.in9 .eye8width store ceil inc .eye5 absstore store .up store store 824 *592 substore *.trefaimdx !~= 1 > absstore -323 *.refypos 13684 stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 8 Ends at position 3571 ''''''''''''''''''''''' 824 *.tin6 > angle *.vel substore -199 *.trefbody logx .memloc sgnstore ceilstore .eye1dir dec store 331 *.vel drop 5482 .out3 substore .mkchlr inc %= substore *.tin6 *.hitup *.reftie *.maxvel 22708 *.aim store substore addstore .eye3dir store 11703 store *.refvelup 2473 sqrstore *.trefdx 804 808 *.refvelsx 609 not 6199 *356 %= floorstore addstore *.trefeye *.tieang3 xor store *.tielen3 store *.trefvelscalar substore >> *.myties 195 mult stop sgn *.trefaimsx *.hitup floorstore dupbool 808 != *.vel 7420 *.refdx 452 862 *.tin3 10357 *433 -1 store *.eye9 -199 substore ^ 506 *.kills 789 .sx store ~ sqr store absstore store 781 .eye7dir store *.shsx dupbool addstore add .mkvenom store *.slime absstore .tout5 store *.trefaimdx 7 > 25421 over *.hitdn .refdx dec store *.tin2 337 clearbool overbool !%= 10821 *.pleas *.hitang 14601 *561 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stop *.refvelsx 25487 & *.tin2 469 524 824 .eye1dir sgnstore substore 809 486 *.thisgene *.trefvelscalar *.refvelsx inc store 8401 *.trefaimsx sgn swap dist *.refaim 804 .up store 414 *.trefaimsx sgn stop *433 *.kills 789 862 store store *.tin1 809 5723 *375 ++ absstore 894 *785 sgnstore 523 *97 697 30856 store or dist sgn *.reftie - floorstore *384 *274 *.trefaim 416 *.xpos sub store *8302 .vshoot store .numties substore *.shdn !%= store store sqrstore store 835 *-772 *.refmulti 6543 sin *.trefvelmysx rndstore 338 483 *.refvelup angle > dropbool *-138 and %= logx dropbool != *.vel 3 *.trefvelyourdn 28508 store *.hitsx 27603 626 808 dupbool overbool absstore *.myties 522 *.mysx * *.trefvelyourup 1202 *.sun xor 696 * stop 9816 480 480 < *.robage multstore 862 store .tieang1 store %= store dropbool .tout6 dec *.tieang2 store absstore true store 535 .vshoot store *.refaim = .eye8width store != logx dup *.trefaimdx 1195 negstore *.trefypos overbool store 338 *.maxvel 2 *.tin3 logx & -1 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Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on August 27, 2022, 09:42:10 PM: It's still quite a feat! I don't think anyone's managed a simulation that long, at least not to my knowledge. Best of luck on your next simulation.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on September 24, 2022, 04:10:22 PM: alright this is the setup i got running right now, splitting the map into 4 quarters

nothing too special yet as of 29.474 million cycles, the bots engage in opportunistic cannibalism where they hover around each other but don't try too hard to eat each other, like only shooting a few shots at a time. They're not very active movers, they just stay still when there's no food or other bots around. There's slight differences between the bots in each quarter but it's largely all in junk code/neutral mutations that doesn't do anything but still changes the color

This simulation almost faced a total extinction a few days ago because I made the barriers between the quarters too restrictive, which increased the risk of complete death in one quarter since it was really hard for a bot to repopulate it from another corner. What I think happened is that one corner died out from unfortunate starvation, then followed by another one, then another one, and all the plants in the died out corners contributed to the total energy (The sunlight turns off at a maximum upper limit of total energy to prevent the map from being overrun by plants) which caused even less energy to go into the plants into the corners with bots still alive, causing the other corners to die out quicker.

But a few bots managed to survive in the bottom left corner, when I got back from doing something they were down to a pitiful 30 since they had to rely on scraps from the few plants they could reach since the plants stopped spawning in since the amount of plants was at the maximum limit. Thankfully I kickstarted it back up by deleting those super restrictive barriers and manually moving some bots right next to giant piles of plants in each of the 4 corners. Their dna was still intact and unmolested by genetic drift, so they quickly repopulated and now i have a blooming simulation that's quite alive :D
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on October 02, 2022, 02:05:12 AM: oh my god guys, the bots are changing!!! they're becoming more greedy, with more average energy per bot. since i increased the graphing interval i can see some more long term trends, like a while ago there was heaps of population and diversity but somewhere along the way the population crashed and never recovered from it
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on October 06, 2022, 06:12:50 PM: oh dear it looks like a bot has discovered a way to gain immortality and cheat death
basically it spits out a child every frame but then eats it either on the same frame or in the very next frame, and somehow it has maintained maximum energy+body

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cond *.eye6 *188 !~= *.refeye << >= start 25831 .up store .eye5width store 806 < logx *294 *.mysx *.tielen1 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 19 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 20 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.trefbody *.eyef 207 >= *.myeye 806 < logx store *.hit *.tielen2 -6 .shoot store 15429 *.myeye *.refypos .shareshell store 337 xor 5 ++ *.refvenom sgnstore substore and *.nrg 30511 >= .repro floorstore '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 52 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on January 04, 2023, 03:58:58 PM: Hello everyone happy new year it's been a while but i got some interesting things to show you because ive been running the simulation all this time. First of all i kinda started a new simulation by picking out the best bots from the simulation, then just making it start with those bots, but I also edited their mutation rates because I screwed up by making the mutation magnitude too large. Like, a point mutation is usually only 1, but i edited it to be minimum 1, maximum 5 and it didn't work well because usually for cool new things to happen you need small mutations that over time work with more small mutations to create some new behavior or function. But with the large mutation magnitude, it was basically impossible for the bots to evolve significantly because it would change too many things at once, usually breaking the bot so that it does nothing and dies of starvation. Even if it doesn't kill the bot, the large mutations usually only add or change junk code that does absolutely nothing, and extremely convoluted junk code filled with nonsense too, so that it's extremely hard for additional mutations to end up being positive.

I want to simply describe what most bots do, because their behavior is quite unique. If they don't see anything, they just stay still. It's boring, and it's pretty much what the basic animal minimalis does anyways, but it's practical because the cost of movement is pretty high and especially since there are a lot of walls and no map wraparound, there's no guarantee of finding food by simply moving in a straight line, and in fact doing that can get you stuck in a corner where you're even less likely to find food and very likely to starve to death. If they see a plant, they go straight for it and eat it. If they see a bot, it seems like they try to circle around each other, and sometimes they attack each other with shots, but with not much dedication. They're pretty much opportunistic cannibals. Maybe the circling behavior is a result of bots trying to get behind the other to land free shots? Also they treat a corpse exactly like a plant and go straight for it.

So once I turned down the mutation magnitude, I started seeing some interesting mutations. First of all there was a species in the upper left quadrant which developed shells, which greatly helped them survive from the opportunistic cannibalism of basically everyone else (opportunistic cannibalism is when bots don't necessarily seek out other bots to kill and eat, but they will totally do so if one ends up in their sights) but they eventually died out. I believe this is because they made too much shell so they became too heavy and couldn't move anywhere to find food, so while they could resist cannibalism, they just starved to death. Second there was another species in the upper left quadrant some time after this which somehow stopped being cannibals and basically regained the ability to distinguish between plants and bots so that they won't attack bots. They still circle around each other and get pretty comfy with each other, so they still recognize bots, but won't attack them. I think I've said before that once animal minimalis loses its ability to recognize other bots to not attack them, it's impossible for them to regain that ability through mutations, but i was proven wrong and i'm delighted about it. Sadly i found them yesterday right as i was about to go to bed so i didn't take a picture of them, went to bed, and i forgot to take a picture of them again when i woke up and reopened the simulation and forgot all about them, and by the time i remembered the simulation had ran for a while and they apparently went extinct during that time. :( my guess is that they were killed with impunity by the opportunistic cannibals and they didn't fight back at all. Or it might be bad luck in finding food, as they were a pretty small population of about 10 bots

the first picture is an overall screenshot of the whole simulation, and the second picture is an example of what it looks like when bots have just finished eating up a clump of plants, they do this crazy circling battle royale where they try to eat each other

here is the best bot, with 61 descendants out of a population of 610, impressive!
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cond *.tieang3 *.myaimdx *.eye8 != *.tin4 *.refeye >= start *.refage .strbody store *.refveldx clearbool 29205 413 *.eye2 18838 *.myshoot store *.refage 2 .memloc store .tielen4 store *.refypos dropbool '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 28 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 29 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.eye5 '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 30 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 31 ''''''''''''''''''''''' else '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 31 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Begins at position 32 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start and 207 >= *.robage *.hit -6 .shoot store 327 not 5 ~ substore *293 angle *.veldx *.trefvelmydn *.nrg 26656 > 527 *.refsx .dn store .repro store 924 27413 *.pleas'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 4 Ends at position 61 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on January 08, 2023, 09:42:15 PM: Glad to see you're still running simulations! Looks like you're getting some reasonable simulation speed, at least. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 11, 2023, 01:26:24 AM: Oh yeah i'm still running the simulation. i'm a bit pressed for time right now so i think i'll post more later, but an extremely interesting development is that some of the bots became plants, and actually succeeded at sustaining a population long term. There had been some new plant species before this, one of the most notable was in the top left which eventually died out, this one is in the top right corner and it's really weird. It's like the way it produces chloroplasts is only when it gets shot by something. Its reproduction is a bit erratic and filled with cannibalism so it spreads very slowly. But something else extremely interesting is that there's some kind of sentinel/guardian subspecies that somehow appropriated the genes for reproduction and used it to continually shoot around itself in a circle. These guys have maximum energy and body and frequently 1 shot any "normal" bots dumb enough to come near them. Something even more interesting about these guardians is that since the code for reproduction has a trigger to see if they have enough energy, they only shoot when they have enough energy. So this leads to the super cool phenomenon in which when it's daytime, they start getting energy from the sun and usually all of them are active and shooting, but when it's nighttime, they eventually fall below the energy threshold and stop shooting to conserve their energy

The term guardian may be a misnomer since they'll happily shoot their plant brethren with no discrimination if they're close enough. But so far they've been slowly spreading and surviving so it must be working for them
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 19, 2023, 11:16:01 PM: So, i decided to make the simulation tougher to survive in the hopes of making the bots evolve out of pressure. I doubled the base cost of living per cycle from 1 energy to 2 energy, and i also decreased how much energy plants get from the sun. It's been a while so those weird/interesting plant bots are long gone unfortunately. I squeezed them to extinction by decreasing energy from the sun as i mentioned before because their shots were causing a huge amount of lag.

I also wanted to shake up the strategies that the bots used. Because the vast majority of them just stayed still, only moving when they see a nearby bot or plant, I wanted to both punish this strategy (by doubling the cost of living without doing anything) and encourage new strategies that involve more movement by halving the movement cost. So far it seems that by raising the energy cost of living for everyone, it has made all of the bots more hostile and cannibalistic, and they seem to be better at actually hitting their shots too. I guess because there's now even more selection for bots that can gain energy not only from plants but also from other bots. Other than that, they don't seem to have developed any new movement strategies yet. The closest I've seen are the various deleterious negative mutations that just make the bot spin around in circles until it dies, which doesn't work because it doesn't achieve much more than just staying in place and wastes a bunch of energy, and also it completely denies the bot any opportunity to make use of leftover drifting velocity - that's a major source of movement for most bots, especially really really small bots with very little body which can just drift for a good distance on just leftover velocity from eating or chasing a bot. Others make the bot run in a straight line until getting stuck on a shape or the map corner (there's no wrap around) and then dying.

An interesting trend i noticed is that since i started the simulation this morning (I made the sweeping changes a few days earlier), I didn't change any settings but the size of the bot population is very slightly trending up, and the total energy of the bot population is very slightly trending down. My guess is that because the bots have become more fighty, they're collectively wasting more energy through stray body and energy shots, and the cost of shots and movement. For the population, I guess that the bots changed their reproduction threshold to be lower, so they make more children, but each getting slightly less energy.

Here's the best bot, 28 descendants out of a population of 705. So you can see it's far from being dominated by one particular lineage or species
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cond *.refshoot *.refveldn *.eye8 != >= start *159 13991 *.myshoot 313 4696 *.myshoot addstore addstore 28820 *.chlr *.edge store | 4696 *.myshoot addstore .eye8dir store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 25 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 26 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start *.eye5 11 >= .tout2 store *.fixed -6 .shoot store 532 *.xpos *.hit store *.refdx 336 xor 5 ++ addstore *.nrg 23435 > pow 550 *.in6 *.xpos store .repro store '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 55 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 21, 2023, 01:02:03 AM: Very cool thing about the graphs: today i increased the cost of living again from 2 to 3 energy per cycle, but i also increased the energy from the sun from 20 to 30 energy. It made the graphs more volatile and varied:
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on March 24, 2023, 11:44:21 PM: Weirdly, there's a moderately strong upwards trend in the bot population, but all the other things like average energy, average age, and total energy stayed the same. This means the bots must be becoming better adapted to the harsh conditions i've imposed upon them :D
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: hdggDalton on August 07, 2023, 01:41:39 PM: Hey lads it's been a while. The last simulation i was running got corrupted somehow and i wasn't able to continue it so i started a new simulation by bringing over the bots from the corrupted save (for some reason it wouldnt run but i could still select and save the bots) and plonking them down in the new simulation. The conditions here are even more harsh with a cost of 5 every cycle just to stay alive. Well it turns out i forgot to disable chloroplasts so at some point some bots evolved into being plants and slowly took over the map. The only thing keeping them somewhat under control is the 100 million energy limit that turns it to night time whenever it goes above that, but they don't seem to be dying out even though i've been reducing the sunlight energy and doubling the cost to make chloroplasts.

There's still a small population of the original mobile bots around, but they're struggling to survive on the original chloroplasts that are being repopulated once in a while and maybe the occasional corpse of a dead plant bot because they simply refuse to eat the plant bots. They earlier (like way before the plant bots became a thing) evolved a behavior where whenever they see someone from the same species they run backwards while shooting at them. Very good at avoiding and fighting against cannibalism, and it still serves that purpose because bots that don't do that often just eat their own children. But at this point so many of the plant bots genomes related to shooting have degraded so much because they don't need that to survive (actually this behavior would be disastrous for plant bots because they're usually so heavy that they can't move away from their children and end up eating them) that they're totally incapable of shooting, so they don't pose a threat despite their massive size. There just needs to be some way for the mobile bots to be able to eat the plant bots while still avoiding cannibalism and they will absolutely wipe the floor with them

heres the dna of a mobile bot with 39 descendants
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substore cond ceil -1435 *.refeye *.myaimdx < start angle '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 9 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 10 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start .up addstore false *.eye6 < -6 .shoot store div *342 dup -92 *-323 *.eye5 = << <= dropbool anglecmp ~ store root clear 415 *.kills 216 277 | 570 .aimright floorstore *.nrg stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 43 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 44 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start true 31852 > pyth 344 .repro store <<'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 52 '''''''''''''''''''''''
and heres the dna of a plant bot with 17 descendants
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cond sqr 614 -1458 *.myaimdx start angle '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 1 Ends at position 7 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Begins at position 8 ''''''''''''''''''''''' start .up addstore xor *.eye6 < -88 -6 xor .shoot store *.refup dup *493 -25 & *-323 *500 = <= dropbool sqr & store *-813 5 .mkchlr floorstore *.nrg stop '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 2 Ends at position 37 ''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Begins at position 38 ''''''''''''''''''''''' cond 31138 > pyth 344 300 start store <<'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 3 Ends at position 46 '''''''''''''''''''''''
Title: Re: coexistence
Post by: Numsgil on September 10, 2023, 03:35:47 PM: I'm glad you're still running simulations. I find your results really interesting.

For the mobile bots, their genome is mostly trashed at this point, except they've conserved the ability to eat ('-6 .shoot store') and reproduce ('344 .repro store'), which makes sense since otherwise you aren't going to produce any children.

Likewise the plants genome is mostly junk except for '5 .mkchlr floorstore', which allows it to make chloroplasts.