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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart

« on: December 09, 2008, 01:33:29 PM »

D-evo:

1: Believing in multiple gods is not really self-contradictory.

It is (it depends on how you define a god)

2: Why can't you base your beliefs off of pascal's wager? You seem to be basing your beliefs on probabilities...

1 : I never said you couldn't, I said I dont believe you should base your religious stand point [you]only[/you] on pascals wager.

2 : I don't. I simply used probabilities to demonstrate the credability of the bible.
     Believing because of pascals wager [you]is[/you] basing your beliefs on probabilities ...

Anyway, so long as faith isn't perfect knowledge, you'll remain religious in order to have the "insurance policy" that religion brings, not because you know it will make you happier.

1 : religion is not [you]only[/you] an ensurance policy. It is the way you live your life. A product of this [you]may[/you] be happiness

Just FYI, the LDS church does acknowledge that the bible was altered over time, and that this was detrimental to it's spiritual content. That's why Joseph Smith made the JST Bible.

not all churches acknowledge this though, ( even though it is a posability )

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Darwinbots3 / How can I best help

« on: December 09, 2008, 12:06:30 PM »

 
I got it working !

I think I corrupted some things when I first used smart SVN because I didnt understand it.
So I deleted everything and started again. set everything up and it works.
So you can veiw the code on VSC# 2005.

I am sure you want as many people to help as possable for such a large development
By making it easier to access I am sure more people will be encouraged to participate

I am willing to writte a step by step guide to accessing the DB3 documents.
If you would like that just say so. (maby I'm not the best person to do it but I understand what newbies need to here    )

PS. is it normal to recieve an error message stating
Warning   1   The referenced component 'Tao.OpenGl' could not be found.    
Warning   2   The referenced component 'Tao.Platform.Windows' could not be found.
have these files not been created yet or am I just missing them ?

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart

« on: December 09, 2008, 11:10:19 AM »

maby....
maby not...  

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F2 bots / BETA-AA-(F2)

« on: December 09, 2008, 08:58:14 AM »

The league runs fine on my laptop using 43 l. 44 is screwed.  If you have any issues post the bots and the table and I'll re run to get it right

yay.
another laptop user  

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Bot Challenges / Conspec Challenge

« on: December 09, 2008, 08:43:43 AM »

One of the things I really like about Darwinbots is how, years and years after it was created, there's still no perfect conspec recognition.  We always come up with new ways, and new ways to fool the new ways, but there's never a perfect solution.

I think we should keep it this way. There is no perfect solution in reality, so why make one for darwin bots?
you would never see interesting mimic bots evolve like we see in nature

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart

« on: December 09, 2008, 08:37:18 AM »

Except that most of the prophecy that came true is recorded only in the book itself, since it happened in prehistory.  Likewise the prophecies in the new testament either are Millennial in nature or happened soon after Jesus's death, during the period of time it is believed that the new testament was written by the Apostles (60-100 AD).  I'm thinking specifically of Jesus's prophecy concerning the destruction of the Temple.  And of course the prophecies in Revelations which can be read to refer to the middle ages, but those are worded to be interpreted in many different ways.  You can't look at the Judeo-Christian mythos and "prove" it.  It's entirely self referential.

You are forgetting that many prophecys in the old testament are refering to the new.
the bible consists of many books. all written by different people at different times and places. many of the people didnt know each other. so any reference to another book is most likely unintentional
The old testiment was written long before the new.
You may argue that the new testiment must of being written to forefill prophecys in the old testiment. but the thing is, we know Jesus existed and we know what he did.
Not only from the bible but many roman texts from that time (see, not self referential). So the new testiment is not just a fairy tale written to fit with the old testiment, even though it my seem like that because it fits so well.

The bible also prophisizes the destruction of many nations. all which have happend long after 100 AD

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Newbie / Eating Corpses

« on: December 08, 2008, 05:46:55 PM »

if you shoot enrg at corpses do the corpses gain energy? and are there dna deleted?

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Newbie / sexrepro code

« on: December 08, 2008, 05:41:47 PM »

The parrent birth tie is 0 and the child tie is 1...
So just have
*.robage 0 =
.deltie inc
somewhere...

You can't delete the birth tie. but you can replace it with a normal tie and then delete the normal tie

so it would look like this

cond
 *.robage 0 =
start
 .tie inc
stop

cond
 *.robage 1 =
start
 .deltie inc
stop

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F2 bots / BETA-AA-(F2)

« on: December 08, 2008, 05:31:31 PM »

Strange, I might have to run it by hand...

why. that is what makes it crash. have a note book and it runs the league fine
just when I add some bots, change settings run sim a bit. change more settings, remove some bots, run sim ect.

I think it is because  the cach is not cleared ore something

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart

« on: December 08, 2008, 05:20:57 PM »

you are totaly missing the point.

you know there are beliefs that entitle many gods. eg. paganism.
they believe that there is a god for everything. eg. rain, land, fire ect.
And they worship these gods.
so they are baisicaly worshiping idols (material objects).
this is stupid because worshiping the sky is not going to make it rain, worshiping fire is not going to protect you from burns ,ect.

we believe in one god because why would we believe in many ?!

maby I am missing your point.
Do you think that If it is possable for there to be a god, why not many gods?
well god is in essence, an all powerfull being that has total power over everything.
How can there possably be many beings that have total power over everything? It does not work.

another point

I do not believe that you should believe in god because of pascals wager.
If you believe in god just because you dont want to have the risk of going to hell, then do you trully believe in god ? if not you will go to hell anyway.  

You believe in God because you want to have a relationship with him, and yes, it does include benifits such as happines and a sence of being.

Hell is not a place with little red thingies with pitchforks running around torchering dead people  
Hell is eternall seperation from God.
What I am about to say is not exactly politicaly correct but...
atheists are going to hell wether you like it or not,
this goes for everybdy if God does not exist.  

I want to clear up a few other things to.

first of all, I never actualy called Jahova's witness a cult.
I simply said many christians veiw it as a cult which is true.

The big bang and evolution does not even contradict genisis as much as you say it does.
It says the world was created in 7 days. 1 day is about 1 rotation of the earth. earth wasnt made yet so how could it posibly say it was made in 7 days.
I belive it was made in 7 stages.
some people ask why the bible doesn't explain how he did it.
My answer is, he could of. but if the bible said that "  then nuclear fision occured in a supper dense cloud of hydrogen gass and [maxwell's Equation] and ect..." and then there was light. I dont think they would of taken it seriously in ancient times.
The only thing you could argue with is the creation of Eve from a rib of adam, but that is baisicaly saying that woman is from man and man is from woman.

The bible is a religious book unlike any other.
It makes claims that no other book would dare to make.
at least 25 % of the bible is Prophecy , and of that 80 % has come true
The odd's of this happining is imposable to comprehend
some info at this site

http://www.hopeofisrael.net/index.php?opti...4&Itemid=30

what it baisicaly says is the odds of just 8 Prophecys in the bible comeing true is about 1 in 10^17
or 1000000000000000000
but there are many more than 8 prophecys
In another calculation, 48 prophecies were used even though 456 could of being used (dont think he had a big enough calculator ) and arrived at the extremely conservative estimate that the probability of 48 prophecies being fulfilled in one person is the incredible number 1 in 10^157 !!!!!
that is a numbere with 157 didgets on it, not even going to attempt writing it.

the other 20 % are prophiceys about the end of the world. wat does that tell you?  

That is all I can think of for now. any questions

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Darwinbots3 / Mutation protection

« on: December 08, 2008, 12:47:50 PM »

how about seting the mutation details bor certain parts of the DNA as pre script to the actual code.

this will be optional and not run in the actual dna.
eg

defmr 95 36 50

95 is the chance of the mutation (measured in percent or somthing like that) and 36 to 50 is the position in the dna it protects.

what do you think?

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Darwinbots3 / How can I best help

« on: December 08, 2008, 11:18:09 AM »

I don't know, you'll have to try it and tell me.  Right now the only projects that are 2008 are in the DNA and physics directories.

I have tried but im not sure if I did it proply
I am using smartSVN and I think I am doing the right thing.
I set up the directory and every thing and I can use it to find the DB3 directory on the site and it shows the C# symbole.
I click it and it does nothing.

probably did it wrong. not used to this subversion thing. The documentation is obviosly not ment to help dumb asses like me   .

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F2 bots / BETA-AA-(F2)

« on: December 08, 2008, 11:03:43 AM »

Does l usually crash after ten rounds? Happened to me every single time.

is that the "out of memory" thing.
It only crashes if qou fiddle with the settings a lot and go in and out of the sims.
If you run the leugue it is fine

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Biology / Metabolism

« on: December 08, 2008, 10:56:06 AM »

Ok here it is

tunnels will be difficult with db2 which is 2d. no factor like tunnel wall to hold up roof
3d would be easier.

Nutrients from the soil must be prescent in the leaves to photosynthisize
watar must be prescent in soil to form solution that can be absorbed by the plants.
surface area will be a top priority like in real life.
single cells are capable of being auto trophes but wont be very efficient. like alge.
will encourage complexity because of the need to transport nutrients into differt parts of the organism.

roots will be very vunerable to attack encouraging bots to tunnel into the soil.
wery small cells will be capable of remaining airborn.

will at least make it theoreticaly possable to evolve life like we have on earth

note. the green cells contain chloryphyll (photosynthesis). brown cells collect nutrients, and the lime cells transport nutrients

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Biology / Metabolism

« on: December 08, 2008, 09:11:56 AM »

That is exactly what I had In mind
Will make a small diagram to illistrate it to others