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Code center => Suggestions => Specialization, Metabolism, Digestions and Env Grid => Topic started by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:00:13 PM

Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:00:13 PM: When the robot it under design , It set Metabolize a sertain gas in the e-grid that will eventually expire.
When it does expire , the robots will be forsed to evolve:

into getting energy from the sun (special enzymes etc.)
this will be a little harder to do( complex enzymes); because the robot does not have to evolve a hunting strategy and anything at all exsept reproduction code in the dna. = 50% chance

OR

into hunters that eat plants and other robots (not so special enzymes)
this will be a easy to do ( simple enzymes); because the robot does have to evolve a hunting strategy and reproduction code in the dna. = 50% chance

Therefore its a 50/50 chance of going eather way.
[you]There you go, this will give you a very cool hunter sim with robots evolving from mindless robots that feed on gas.[/you]
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: shvarz on March 18, 2005, 07:12:43 PM: If you know what bots will evolve into, then it is not fun. The fun is to see them evolve into something completely unexpected!

P.S: Don't bother to say it, I know - goverment is talking :)
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:29:45 PM: HAHAHA , shvartz is doing p.s.es on me now , I really need to stop the horsment.

Anyway,

There is still chance that the robots will evolve into somthing unexpected in my system.

I lied: Its probebly going to be (the way its set up) 33%plants , 33%hunters, 33%unexpected-stuff.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:36:49 PM: Shvartz , look in the real world and give me an organism dont eather feed on matter , or on sunlight/heat. You wont find any.

"When the robot it under design , It set Metabolize a sertain gas in the e-grid that will eventually expire."
As you can see^ :
My system even biggins with a whole different method of feeding , different from photosintazys or form hunting.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: shvarz on March 18, 2005, 07:40:35 PM: There are plenty of bacteria that feed on gases.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:42:22 PM: Ok then great, Now I know that the bot I will start with is called a "bacteria".
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 07:43:08 PM: More qustions? comments? Or I will start thinking everyone likes it and I will post it in the "final virsion thread".
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: shvarz on March 18, 2005, 07:49:05 PM: Not just any bacteria. A specific kind called archaeobacteria. Notice that "archea" - means old. These are very old bacteria from times when earth's atmosphere was reach in methane.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 08:10:32 PM: Ok here is a summery:

The Enzymes required for ‘Photosynthesis’ are MORE COMPLEX then the Enzymes Required for ‘Hunting’.

A robot using ‘Photosynthesis’ Enzymes will not be able to use ‘Hunting’ Enzymes without it being too costly.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: shvarz on March 18, 2005, 08:32:30 PM: What was it that you summarized Bots? I am missing something...
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 18, 2005, 09:08:23 PM: "What was it that you summarized Bots? I am missing something... "

------> An Agent, or a skeptic, and a pro at it. keep talking shvartz , keep talking shvartz , keep got fing damed talking ,what are you BEEEP missing here, well , speack you loser. <----- Me being pissed off , weeeee

------>

PY did you get? Yes Py got it.

Num did you get? yes Num got it.

AGP did you get it? I think so sayed agp.

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Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Anonomous Guest Person on March 18, 2005, 09:57:59 PM: Actually, half the time I don't get what you're talking about.
But I blame that on me. 'Cause everything's obviously my fault :D
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 19, 2005, 01:29:41 PM: Thats just a portion of the metabolism idea we are going to use, ....
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 19, 2005, 01:35:46 PM: This is just a summery of this thread: http://s9.invisionfree.com/DarwinBots_Foru...ndpost&p=297974 (http://s9.invisionfree.com/DarwinBots_Forum/index.php?showtopic=206&view=findpost&p=297974)

If you dont understand somthing or , if you dont like somthing about it.
Explain yourself please.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 19, 2005, 03:51:01 PM: It simply drains too mutch energy to have ‘Photosynthesis’ and ‘Hunting’ in one robot. Thats the idea I was thinking off.

I also think we should give the Hunters more chance because they also have to evolve hunter strategy. SO:

The Enzymes required for ‘Photosynthesis’ are HARDER TO EVOLVE then the Enzymes Required for ‘Hunting’.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: PurpleYouko on March 19, 2005, 06:39:58 PM: Trouble is that this is assigning those nasty arbitrary rules that Shvarz loves so much :bigginangel:

Using a bit pattern enzyme system there is simply no way to set up these arbitrary rules. All the mutation system will do is to change random bits in the bit pattern.

Enzyme bit patterns within this overall pattern will act directly on bit pattern type food, gas, sunlight or whatever to make bit pattern type proteins.

Then Shvarz's make and break controls take over and go to work on the myriad proteins that the robot now has.

:D PY :D
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 19, 2005, 07:19:59 PM: Shvartz, Do you understand this posts now?

Py, I know about the make beack rules , I was telling Shvartz to make sure they work with the "50/50 system".

Do they work?

If they do, then please summerize the "make break system" and post in the final virsion thread I started.

Go to General approch to metabolism , read the lest post for more info.
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: shvarz on March 19, 2005, 07:34:18 PM: Yes, I beleive they can work in what you call 50/50 system. Whether they "will work" will depend on how well we balance the system out. And it will be tough balancing out a system with limitless possibilities :)
Title: THE 50/50 SYSTEM
Post by: Botsareus on March 19, 2005, 07:37:38 PM: OK then summerize your "make...breack" system and post it in the final virsion thread