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General => Off Topic => Topic started by: Numsgil on February 25, 2005, 08:20:27 PM
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[span style=\'font-size:11pt;line-height:100%\']Rioters Protest Darwinbots Blood Sports[/span] (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/I/us/nws/p/ap120a.gif)
By IMA FAYK, Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK - Protesters gathered outside the third annual Darwinbots convention in New York, NY to protest what they consider "unspeakable acts of cruelty."
"This ranks right up there with cock fighting, fox hunting, and other blood sports," said Robert O'Doyle, President of Women for Animal Rights. "These are living creatures too. Forcing these normally peaceful bots to battle to the death in leagues is immoral, uncival, and if I have my way, unlawful."
Every year on January 30th Darwinbots fans gather for DarwinCon to share company, bot techniques, and award the coveted 'Carlo' to bot makers and mutaters alike who have best contributed to the field.
Controversy was brewed late last March when the Biological Overseeing Committe accepted organisms from selected artificial life simulators as officially alive. Darwinbots was among the list.
"What makes Darwinbots unique is its open ended nature," says Jay Lemmon, a bot maker and Darwinbots programmer. "It was natural that people would want to see whose bots are stronger in such a system. The leagues are the natural result."
When asked about O'Doyle's persistant threats to make bot battling illegal, Lemmon responded, "I'm not worried. While its true most bots being made now are considered alive, the term shouldn't denote anything above the most simple of life forms. We have no problem using antibacterial soap, or killing stray mice that wander into our homes.
"If we make bot battling illegal, we must declare soap and mice traps illegal too. Anyway, bots don't suffer during the battle. They don't feel pain, they just cease to exist for a while."
O'Doyle responded, "It's not the same thing. We don't make mice battle to the death in arenas for our amusement. It's not the death of the bots that's cruel, but the deliberate encouraging of aggressive behaviors.
"Also, I'd like to point out that bots do indeed feel pain. All you have to do is type in ? .pain into the console to see evidence of that."
The issue may come to a head sooner than either party realizes. Rep. McMillan R - Idaho has proposed a bill in the house to make all forms of "cyber cruelty" illegal, imposing stiff fines and possible imprisonment. Included on the bill is expected to be a provision for "cruelty to cybernetic and artificial life forms".
The bill is expected to pass the house but the senate has traditionally been slow to pass bills broadening the rights of animals, whether artificial or actual. The issue is rather evenly split, but not across party lines. It's caused a great deal of friction between the President and his party.
It is not unlikely that this will become the hot button topic of the 2020 elections, surpassing the war in Syrria and the faltering economy.
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You know there is a good side to this, now we are no longer a bunch of computer geeks that waste there lifes away on some stuped simulations. Now the public to some extant recognizes us.
They should ban "Miss America" too , thats "cruelty" to ugly women. Forget about the fact that its real not inside a small box we call a personal computer.
I have a feeling someone is starting this only to make owr lifes more difficult, I mean kids have fun drinking alcohol illigaly , lets make a legal age to play video games too....
Duh there is one....
Ok so now lets put a worning next to the download that this program is rated M
I also have a feeling that "AP" just maid it up because they needed a story...
P.S.
Look on the good site once we make it rated M , we can add blood and everything...
P.S.#2 (later)
I was sleepy , had nothing to do , give me a breack here
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:blink: Num maid it up , this great :blink:
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I also have a feeling that "AP" just maid it up because they needed a story...
You're half right. Someone certainly did make it up. :devil: :evil:
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Technically, DarwinBots are more like robots then life forms.
Until version four or so, that is. ^_^
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Nice. :P
I believed it until I saw the name "IMA FAYK".
I had a good laugh even before I realized the falseness of it, and now it's outright hilarious!
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Technically, DarwinBots are more like robots then life forms.
Until version four or so, that is. ^_^
Yep, that's why I gave us 15 years. :D
You get bonus points if you catch references to the history of science fiction in it.
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I poked a hole in your story.
says a master bot maker and Darwinbots programmer, known only to fans as 'Numsgil'.
Change that around a bit (I.e. take out "a master" and put your name in it) and it can be passed off as 99.9% possibly-not-fake-but-could-also-be-but-nobody-will-ever-trace-it-to-here. :)
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Done :Robot1:
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WOW! I got a newspaper from 10 years in the future, and this was on the frontpage!
Amsterdam - Jan 18th, 2019
A few hours ago dutch Darwinbot fanatic 'Henk B.' was arrested by dutch police with charges of cybernetic cruelties commited in the past 19 years. According to sources in dutch police, mr. B lead a cruel section of the Darwinbots underworld, called 'shortbots'.
Mariah dairy, Pro-life activist, comments: "The Darwinbots shortbot leaugue was the most cruel thing I ever saw... All those poor little Artificial Lifeforms fighting against each other... I am very glad he has been arrested."
Mr. B is the 8th person to be arrested in the notorious DarwinBot case, opened a few years ago after the 'International Cybernetic life treaty' acknowledged Artificial life as 'real life'. Other person arrested in this case were Endy E, and the infamous Darwinbots Godfather known only as 'PY'
:D :lol:
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[mutter] Damn Yankee-centric in-jokes... [/mutter]
*shakes fist*
One day I'll sit down and write an obscure injoke about Gordon Brown- and you WON'T UNDERSTAND- MWHA HA HA! MWHA HA HA HA! Then you'll be SORRY!
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Other than the politics (which were made up BTW. No such representative from Idaho) what's yankeecentric about it?
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I just realized Robert O'Doyle is the leader of the Women for Animal Rights... adn that's a guy's name. XD
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Other than the politics (which were made up BTW. No such representative from Idaho) what's yankeecentric about it?
It all stems from my deep-rooted sexual repression ¬_¬.
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There actually is a male leader to a Women's for something or other. Saw it on the Daily Show w/ John Stewart.
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Hmmm, The Server Maintainer from cr is known as Yankee , thats were I got the idea MP is from cr.
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Yankee is a derogatory term for an American. Although, on a scale of derogativity (anybody know if there is a proper adjective for that?) between e and pi, it sits at about one. Hmm. Anybody know any better race-specific terms for the baseball fanatics on the wrong side of the Atlantic? I need a ethnicality to hate irrationally and I think the French have been doen to death.
I suppose I could use gaijin. But that's a bit more broadbrush. Num, yeh're a feckin' gaijin, says yeh are. Hmm.
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Gaijin? You Japanese?
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Yankee also applies more towards nothern americans. Americans in the south call northerners yanks too, so yank mostly applies to New York, etc.
I've never heard a racial term for Americans because Americans aren't really a race. But I've heard all kinds of derogitive names for whites, hispanics, blacks, native americans, etc.
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ok now I can what Yankee means , thx
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There was also a rock group in the early 90s that went by the name of "Damn Yankees" It was lead by Ted nugent and had some of the worlds greatest rockers in it.
Then they went and turned out a string of sappy power ballads.
Stupid Damn Yankees! :angry:
:evil: PY :evil:
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"Is forcing bots to battle to the death in leagues immoral?"
There should be a option reading:
'Maybe... [makes troll face]'
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Is this actually true. (BTW, Im british, and I fine british politics to amusing to look at american ones).
If so, surely its turing-machine cruelty, as the bots are part of the computer, so its computer cruelty (Oh god, a new meaning to cyber bullying)...
Next we'll be going to the pharmacist to get rid of computer viruses...Hopefully they wont store the cure on 'a big model of the save symbol'
Anyway...What happens if we programmed a humans DNA in darwinbots format, because thats genetic engineering, on a human in theory. which is illegal. And then what if we developed a virus to target that human, thats even more inhumane and illegal.
Oh lord, Im turning into a digital mass murderer.
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No it's not real the author is Ima Fayk aka Im a fake
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That's what I first thought, but... http://www.ap.org/Content/news/2005/Rioters-Protest-Darwinbots-Blood-Sports%20
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oh. well :P