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Code center => Suggestions => Topic started by: vrukt on August 21, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
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So I was watching this last night
Dr. David Deamer - "Systems biology, synthetic biology and the origin of life" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SHHfnIHXQI
He talks about the chemistry of early life, and how tidal pools may have moved it along through repeating wet/dry cycles.
Now I know Darwinbots has no "water" but it does have gravity and light.
So my proposal for tides would involve an "increase in gravity < increase in light < decrease in gravity < burst of Brownian motion < decrease in light < timer"
So the water goes out, leaving behind shallow water, increasing the sunlight and gathering all the bots at the bottom of the tank. Then a wave of water rushes back in, stirring everything, throwing bots upwards, and decreasing the availability of the sunlight, then a timer setting to keep the tides flowing (X cycles before next tide, duration of Y cycles)
Just thought a feature like this could be easily implemented, and add more variety to the darwinbots environment.
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I wouldn't mind that idea if it could be toggled.
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Toggling would be key. It would be like an addition to pondmode. Could be part of a larger weather engine really.
You'd have the pondmode, Botsareus' new moving sunlight mode, and a mode to mix up the water with tides, which is basically an enhanced pondmode.
I wanted an increase in light as the water gets lower, but thinking about it that should be also put on a toggle. Maybe one that varies intensity of light to simulate varying depths of water?
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Sounds fun, pain to add though. Two reasons:
Pulling a new timer and variables from all over the place.
How to come up with exact values, that involves tweaking.
Also, just out of interest:
What do you expect the result of such a simulation to be?
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Also, if I may:
I like how your signature gets to the point right away 8)
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Tell you what, if you can do the home work for me I'll add it.
I assume you want sin curves(edit: except for the Brownian)
Give me the timing, minimum and maximum on everything.
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quote: What do you expect the result of such simulation to be?
Expending on that further, I already have advanced modes to force evolution, specifically survival evolution.
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Well a sine wave addition would be getting fancy. I was thinking of the tank of being a small pool with water rushing in and pouring out. Technically that could happen instantly. The idea is to gather the bots, even the ones floating, all on the bottom of the tank for a set amount of time, before throwing them all up vertically, and reducing the light energy.
Currently I increase and decrease gravity, and vary the light strength manually to try and impose new conditions for survival.
So far the conditions have seemed to change what form the bots take for me. A well known example being when there is light, bots will tend to evolve chloroplasts and sit, so you turn it off to try and force other strategies to form.
I thought the waves would just be providing a new arena for new strategies, something more measured as well than just randomly changing physics variables to "stir" up the tank.
I of course differ experience with this program to you Botsareus, you clearly have more knowledge of the inner workings, so do you think this would actually effect anything in bot survival? Or just be a more visual feature than anything? I'm trying to focus on changing the bots, rather than make the program look pretty.
*also thank you for the compliment on the signature, it's a friendly reminder to the more profound aspect of this program "how long until it goes Skynet?"*
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I of course differ experience with this program to you Botsareus, you clearly have more knowledge of the inner workings, so do you think this would actually effect anything in bot survival? Or just be a more visual feature than anything? I'm trying to focus on changing the bots, rather than make the program look pretty.
Ok, then run stuff I run. Like go to global settings and run survival evolution. It actually produces interesting results, take a look at seasnake caterpillar or seasnake hydra as example.
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off topic:
btw MB league complete, Seasnake Hydra took first place, woot!woot!
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some what off topic:
Technically you can already make sentient beings with my system, just need to tweak the restart component to run as a continues simulation (should be easy enough to do, although untested), simplify/modify bot interactions to make them behave more like neurons and add sensor stream from an external environment while penalizing the brain for lack of resources.
For more information read: "It's a jungle in there" by David. A. Rosenbaum
What I am actively working on is sending my research to proper Uniys for evaluation and integration.
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So far the conditions have seemed to change what form the bots take for me. A well known example being when there is light, bots will tend to evolve chloroplasts and sit, so you turn it off to try and force other strategies to form.
I generally will just turn chloroplasts off.
I am walking a fine line between keeping league and evolution settings interchangeable and making other strategy evolve rather then just chloroplasts. edit: The results of my latest zerobot experiment should be very interesting.
As before I require exact settings from you as a system to evolve chloroplasts and other strategy together, you can probably hook it up to ecosystem survival evolution mode if you like. I still think a sin wave is the best option except for brownien motion that should be a saw wave pulse.
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Ok, maybe keep it as Sin curves (Drastic changes = bad, trust me) but make the timing adjustable, that is "how much cycles until 2pi"?
Once again, this will not be a way to evolve robots for leagues, just a new mode.
And, sorry, I have a tendency to not organize all my thoughts into a single post.
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Unfortunately, that video did not tell me anything new. I am playing with the values my self right now.
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One problem I am experiencing, do you want pond mode? If so, what to do with robots using buoyancy?
I wanted an increase in light as the water gets lower, but thinking about it that should be also put on a toggle. Maybe one that varies intensity of light to simulate varying depths of water?
edit: In pondmode, you already have more 'actual light' on top and progressively less at the bottom btw.
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:thinkey:
Ok got it:
This feature you can adjust by time (in cycles):
Cos wave
gravity from the value set in initial settings to max
light energy (same wave) from the one set in initial settings to zero
buoyancy (hook from manage buoyancy, we should have two hooks total, that's two more Boolean operations minimum per cycle, manageable I think) basically I multiply the vertical property of buoyancy by a value between 1 and 0
when wave between 1.75pi and 2pi Brownian maxes out and then returns to initial settings.
just idea, did not play with it yet.
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[bump]
Implementing now.
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Got away with only one hook by declaring a new single.
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Adding to completion list. Back to work on IM.
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Tweaked it up pretty good, gravity between 0.01 and 1.01, Brown maxes out at 1/5 time and returns to zero.
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Thing thing is spinning on top of my screen, how is that for 'interesting behavior' ?
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Time for a bug fix I think.
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Wow! You work fast!
That's incredible Botsareus :D
I honestly thought this suggestion would provoke some conversation, but mainly about how 'it won't do anything', so I am pleasantly surprised.
Does it seem to work well as a proxy for a crashing wave? Or did it end up being a little bit stranger on implementation?
What did you do to solve the buoyancy issue? I was hoping there would be a way to overwhelm it with gravity, or if that fails, just temporarily turn it off to force them to sink.
I had just gotten everything installed on this laptop and was trying to review the source-code to see if I could understand it, and you were already done, the mind is just boggled! :D
I'm really liking the pictures as well. I was hoping we'd see something interesting, and it seems you already have. The picture with the entire tank looks fantastic, just how I imagined it.
Thank you for that pleasant surprise Botsareus! I am going to redouble my efforts to learn this program.
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Well I loaded in a bunch of vegys with buoyancy as follows:
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They really do not seem to evolve anything interesting, but I had to restart in the morning because of some 'ideas' to make it more coherent. Lets see what happens tomorrow morning. (Chloroplasts still suck!)
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The wave thing and light levels work perfect now. :Headbang: Closest thing I can find to the "presto" symbol.
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But as you already knew, it does not really do anything :/
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I ended up scaling the boyancy maximum just like I did for light.
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Well either way it will be interesting to see what it produces. I don't think anyone will begrudge the tidal mode, it's one more level of realism added to the pond.
I've just been hoping it would create some interesting tie formations with the constant repetitive grouping on the bottom.
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From experience ties form at late stages of any simulation. Very similar to nature from this perspective: chloroplasts > viruses > ties.
I think I'll run your experiment parallel until IM is up, I do have two cores after all.
Also so far the most interesting thing to watch, for me anyway, was putting a primitive robot in my survival mode and watching it progressively evolve in stages.
Can you get my mode working on your computer?
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The meaning of the word begrudge has interesting dualism, which one are you using?
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The one that means you can barely tolerate it, or feel "irrational hostility towards"
Well that is besides yourself, having written it, and being the one who is probably going to have to do any troubleshooting. You may begrudge the extra little bit of complexity and the time it could potentially cost.
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Yes, I do tend to only like working on systems that produce complexity without taking too much complexity for the developer to initiate the process. Imo, that is the beauty of ai.
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Well that's how I got this idea. I saw that video, and the guy talking about the tidal pools, and tried to think of a relatively easy way to simulate a tidal pool in Darwinbot's.
The concept being to take parts that are already there, and reassemble them like Lego's into something new.
Also do you have any documentation on your "Simple Survival Mode" and "Eco Survival Mode"? I'm having a hard time understanding what they are doing.
Survival Mode seems to restart a few times and then freeze. Eco Survival Mode seems to break the bots into a "Base" and "Mutant" but I can't seem to pick up on what it's doing after that.
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That is really weird. Both should have base and mutant. Also, make sure you have a real food supply. Also, what initial robot are you using?
Finally, it works by systematically evolving the mutant robots vs the base robots.
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With every stage the base and mutate gets set to the best calculated entity. Between stages the program restarts.
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Should it just keep restarting constantly with every cycle? It seems to do a few, and a winner scoring box pops up, and no matter what I do, it seems to stop at a cycle 3-4 cycles in, and then becomes incredibly slow or crashes all together.
Also eco-survival mode doesn't restart is that right?
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*.reftype 1 dist -8 0 0 0 *.veldx -4 *.tiepres 0 0 *.delgene >=
*.sexrepro 0 *.in7 712 -7 <
*.myties *.tin9 14 *.aim 0 =
0 store
*.trefvelmysx 213 0 *.myvenom 0 *273 0 >=
-6 *.out4 *.myup 215 *.out8 *848 *.pleas *.tieval *.trefvelscalar 226 -1 <
-3 *.refdx !=
store
angle !~=
-8 *.aim =
208 *614 =
0 *.treffixed *.mass 237 dist rnd store
0 *.dn 210 *.deltie *765 store
=
*.hitdn dropbool
*.eye4width .tin1 absstore
-12 *642 741 0 =
*.tieval *.fdbody >
*260 >> *226 .trefvelmydn ceilstore
add 304 *.refveldn *678 *.focuseye -5 *227 *.eye6 5 *.shang *.tin1 *.tielen1 *.out10 *.tout5 *.refvelup 866 store
=
.eye2dir store
=
818 *.tielen3 root -24 *.trefvelmydn %=
790 10 *.eye2width -1 *.tin8 =
.tout1 store
store
*385 not
-7 =
*.tout9 0 *.trefvelmysx *.myties *.out10 4 *.mkslime *409 -4 *.in1 213 *.vel *.refshoot *.aimleft <
0 674 *.trefaim *.velsx *.sharenrg =
703 *.tin3 *.dnalen *.stifftie *.trefbody =
*.light *.shootval *.velsx *.refsx *.trefnrg <
-4 *.tielen2 0 0 *.delgene =
711 =
*.mkchlr *.sun *.eye5 *.tin2 dropbool
xor
pow ~ 338 -8 *.trefvelscalar *.trefup 0 and
-4 *.tiepres 0 *157 *790 *.deltie *779 *.aimshoot 0 *.aimleft *.pain *.eye9 .readtie substore
anglecmp *.trefdx *.tielen swapbool
212 >=
*.aim 0 0 0 <
536 *.in1 *189 *.out10 *.shoot *231 *.tout1 *.tout10 -25 xor
*.bodgain 213 *.trefaim *.trefage *.refvelup *.eye4width *.dnalen ++ 3 *.tiepres *.xpos <=
*.mkpoison *.fixed >=
*.refeye *317 513 *497 208 *.trefvelmysx *.aimright *.refaim *909 *633 *.tin1 root floorstore
=
484 *.myeye 674 negstore
-10 *.mydn ceil *.trefvelyourdn *.ypos *.totalbots *.myties *.edge *.mkslime *.mrepro *.hitdx =
*.fixlen *234 *.sexrepro 826 *.fixang *.bodgain 0 *.tin10 0 0 =
538 << *.myup *.trefnrg 0 *.sharechlr -3 *.shoot 9 <
*.eye6 *.sx *.eye5width false
root *.refveldx 831 10 *.kills *.eye4dir *.trefbody %=
*.out1 0 !~=
*.refsx *.trefvelmydn store
store
0 *.fertilized *.refsx *.trefshoot >=
*.sharenrg *.trefvelscalar .mkshell store
*.shsx *.trefdx 0 *.out1 *.setboy *.mass 0 <
-17 13 else
*.reftype *.nrg !~=
*.eye1 0 *.eye4dir *.mypoison *.bodgain *.tin6 *.nrg 0 *.trefvelyourdn *.tout3 0 =
512 -3 =
0 *.mkchlr =
464 *.tin2 =
0 *326 !%=
465 0 !=
*592 -1 *246
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 9 Ends at position 2014 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Begins at position 2015 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
<
*.sx *.out2 11 *497 ++ 0 *.mrepro *.myaimsx store
*.hitang *.eye9dir *.eye3dir 461 4 *.out7 0 0 =
0 *.in4 *.refveldx 0 *.tielen4 =
512 *.strbody *.trefvelmysx *.myaimsx *.pain pow *.refshoot 3 <
0 0 *.mrepro - -7 *.trefvelyoursx <
*.out2 1 *.tienum *.rdboy *.hitang *.strvenom *.refveldx 0 0 *.refvelscalar *.eye3width 0 *.hitsx *.totalmyspecies *.maxvel *.tmemval *.hit -16 <=
*.shdn 0 *.out7 *.out6 0 *.sun =
*.eye3dir 0 =
dec
-8 .pleas store
store
!%=
*.trefup !~=
*.setaim *.tin2 *.refkills 621 -11 *.eye1width -1 0 17 =
*.shup *.refpoison *.out2 *.aimright 3 400 *.tielen3 =
0 21 *.refeye 486 *613 *.aimright *743 *.setaim 844 17 dist !%=
add -9 *.genes 895 *.paralyzed *.refpoison 0 *.poisoned !=
900 -1 *.trefage *187 *176 399 -1 =
*.trefvelscalar dist 381 0 *.vel *.in10 *.tin5 *.trefypos =
0 .trefvelscalar store
!%=
-18 -28 =
*.vel 0 *.eye7width *.venom *.tout7 =
*.out10 0 *.mkchlr store
*.eye5 484 0 674 *964 *.refvelup =
store
*.eye2 !=
0 *.tout3 *.trefvelmysx *.ypos *.ploc =
*.in7 0 *.trefvelmydx *.sharewaste 361 -9 *.vel *.in10 *.tin5 *.tin6 469 *.trefypos *.eye6width
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 10 Ends at position 2195 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 11 Begins at position 2196 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
ceil *349 1 *617 *.shdn .repro store
*.tin10 *.hitup 209 *.tin5 *.slime *.up *.rmchlr *.tout6 =
*.sharenrg <=
0 *.bodloss *.setaim 0 =
*.genes 0 *225 *.shootval *.edge 0 *843 store
*228 9 *.trefaim *.tout1 8 =
*232 ~ angle !%=
443 *.mass *.eye2dir 304 *-113 *.treffixed *.refdn *.myshoot 0 0 *.refaim *.sharewaste 0 =
*.out3 -12 7 665 *.out3 21 0 *.trefeye *.tieloc 486 16 =
*.eye8dir *.shup *.numties 0 store
store
203 0 =
0 0 =
*.out7 *.vshoot >=
*.slime 15 1 *.trefsx *.refshell 205 *.eye5dir store
=
504 0 *.refsx *.trefnrg %=
*292 *47 divstore
3 else
-6 *.myaimdx 0 %=
!~=
-9 *770 *.velsx *.mkpoison *.aimshoot 0 *.backshot dec
401 >
11 *.in2 *.mrepro 533 *.myvenom 522 and
7 *.mydx *.out4 -15 <=
*.in8 *.tin2 =
*349 *.myshoot *23 =
*.eye8dir *.dn *329 swapbool
8 *.shflav *.tmemloc *.timer *.out1 | =
*.fixed *489 *.eye6dir -6 *.venom *962 224 store
-13 2 !~=
*.refvenom *.refeye *.refdn *0 0 .refmulti store
17 store
*.venom 0 !%=
*.shoot *.eye6width *.readtie *.velsx *.deltie %=
10 *.refmulti *.daytime *.mkchlr 5 *.refdn *.timer *.out10 =
*.daytime 0 =
*750 *.refvelsx 0 *.eye8dir *.aimleft *.mkvirus *.bodloss *.tieang *.tieang =
*.trefbody *.memloc *.strvenom *.light *.reffixed =
*.out1 0 *.chlr 0 0 0 store
413 =
*.rmchlr *.eye4dir !~=
store
0 *.ploc *.mkshell 0 =
*.tieval *.tin4 %=
739 .repro store
*.vtimer *.shdn
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 11 Ends at position 2425 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 12 Begins at position 2426 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
*.chlr *.tout4 *.aimright -7 =
715 *.out10 *.myup *.myties 0 *.in10 =
~ 2
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 12 Ends at position 2440 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 13 Begins at position 2441 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*.tout5 *.tie .hitdn store
*.aimright *.mysx 6 >
-10 start
*.veldn 142 *.in10 *.tout8 *.trefbody 0 *.strvenom *.refaimsx 261 store
=
~ 0 *.aimleft 482 *.trefage =
store
*.refvelscalar 474 *913 substore
ceilstore
484 0 674 *.eye1dir *.sx *20 *-13 *.xpos !~=
*.refkills 0 *.eye3width *.eye9width store
=
*.eye4dir *.treffixed !%=
*.eye6 *.genes *.up *.setboy >
-16 *.out6 23 !%=
*390 *.totalmyspecies 703 0 *.velscalar *.eye2dir 704 *.shootval =
*651 store
=
*.memval 0 *.tmemval *.deltie *.out4 *.shell *.aimright - *.tin1 707 0 =
*382 *.shareslime sqr
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 13 Ends at position 2528 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 14 Begins at position 2529 '''''''''''''''''''''''
start
*.myties 0 store
*.refdx *.fdbody 0 674 *.venval -10 *.waste *.out8 *.in3 !=
*.light *.in8 *.eye8dir *.trefvelmysx *.trefvelyourdx *.ploc *.tieang =
512 *.hitup =
0 *.eye7width =
464 *.tout2 *.myaimdx *.pain *.ploc *.refshoot .sharewaste store
6 *.sx *.readtie *233 *.tin10 *.fixlen *.tout1 *.myup -14 5 5 4 *.trefup *.dnalen 10 *.trefdn 9 =
575 -6 *.sx *365 *.trefvelmysx !%=
699 *.sharewaste =
.tin6 store
*.trefage *.trefvelscalar *.refmulti =
-26 store
*.tout3 688 =
*.mkchlr 0 *.refveldx *.reftie *.trefvelyourdx *.trefbody 0 *.dnalen 0 704 *.ploc =
*.myup 0 =
*.venval 0 *.tmemval *.refmulti *.vel *.maxvel -3 *.rdboy 459 -14 sgnstore
*.shdx *307 4
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 14 Ends at position 2631 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 15 Begins at position 2632 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
*.shoot 0 =
*.fixpos 0 *.myaimsx 214 *.fixpos 417 *.tout10 -10 =
485 *.trefaimdx !=
0 *.eye5width *.slime 486 *.refvenom >=
*679 8 =
*.tin2 =
0 *.bodgain =
*.thisgene *.veldn *.timer *.eye3dir *.in9 *.tout6 *.eye9dir 565 0 *373 *.trefaimdx *.in3 -- *496 sgnstore
19 -24 <
854 *.dn *.trefup store
*.refvelscalar 0 *894 *.eye3 -18 >=
& 456 *.vtimer add !~=
0 0 *.mkpoison 457 0 >=
*.in10 0 =
*.fixpos *.maxvel =
*.eye5dir -3 *.trefeye 459 0 *.vtimer *.refvelup 0 *.tin7 *.aimleft sin 0 *.bodloss *.tieang2 0 =
*.refdx 4 *.eye9 *.vtimer 0 *.tielen2 *.nrg 0 *.refveldx *.tin9 0 !%=
!=
*.mkpoison =
0 0 =
464 *.tin2 =
xor
dropbool
*.trefaim 0 *.reftie 0 0 store
*.hit *.repro *.veldx *.tout6 <
0 *.fertilized !=
731 *.focuseye *.tie =
539 *.tin2 *.daytime *.trefvelyourdn 0 *.tiepres *.eye2 12 *.refdn <
*.sx *.tout6 405 *497 19 & =
store
root *747 *.vel 0 399 *.in10 *.hit *.tin6 469 *.trefypos *.hitup 0 =
*.veldx 0 *663 0 *.tout2 *.vel *168 *.strvenom *.refveldx 0 0 *.tieang 501 0 *.vel div 5 -13 *.tout3 *.tin6 -16 <=
*.xpos -6 *374 *592 *.mkshell *.numties *.vel 0 !~=
pow *346 !%=
ceil -7 *.refmulti store
0 <
=
*.in2 0 *.myup *.tie 0 *.shang -- *.refup =
0 - 0 0 *.venval *.trefvelyourdn -4 *613 >=
*.up 7 *.readtie 0 *.backshot *.trefaim *.mkpoison 0 *.eye8dir *.refpoison 0 %=
1023 *.trefsx 2 *.vel store
*.xpos *.eye3width *.out7 =
*167 *778 !%=
0 *.trefeye -322 *.daytime -6 <
0 *.backshot *.sharewaste *.tout3 *.trefdx 0 0 *.aim angle 39 *.in8 *797 0 *.refpoison *.tielen *.sharewaste <=
*758 *.eye5width =
-10 *.tout5 *.trefage *.trefaimsx 0 *.refpoison 0 *.poisoned =
900 *.tin7 *.reftie *.shang 0 *.trefage *.fixlen 23 >
-12 dup 534 *.sharewaste 0 9 *.trefvelyourdx *.tiepres -11 ~=
*.tiepres *.veldn >=
*.eye5width *.trefage ~ *.eye1 213 *.veldn *.eye3 462 *.out1 =
*999 *570 =
484 0 .pval inc
*.in4 =
485 800 *.trefvelmydn 0 =
*.ploc 486 *.tieloc *.refypos *.in7 *.light >
*.trefvelmydx *779 *.tout10 *.out8 0 444 *.refaimdx *.tin9 -18 -28 -- =
445 0 *.trefvelmydx *.shell -4 ++ *620 =
*.eye9dir *.out8 *.shareshell 1 >
*.out1 <=
*.xpos *.totalmyspecies 0 =
0 529 =
over *.in9 !=
sin pow *432 *.mass *380 =
*.reftype *.velsx clearbool
6 *.tout6 6 0 and
*.refmulti -4 *.tiepres 0 0 *.delgene *.rmchlr *.up *.aimright *.eye5 *.trefaimdx -- 0 =
=
0 *.dnalen - 0 store
*.refaimsx !~=
.reftype store
*.in3 *.in3 *.refvelscalar *.rdboy 0 *.hit *.robage *.tielen4 *.aim *.eye3width 0 *.refvelscalar 0 dupbool
*0 *.repro *.multi >> 445 0 =
413 ~ *281 *.refshoot *.shflav 0 .tielen3 store
0 =
0 *.tie =
723 0 =
0 >> *.shoot =
*.eyef drop *495 *.refup 0 330 *.eye6dir *.eye4 -15 %=
*.mkshell 0 *.tiepres *.myaimdx and
=
0 0 =
.eye8dir store
.vel store
*.tmemval !=
*.in8 0 =
*342 *.sx <=
*.vel 18 *.stifftie *.eye7 0 *.eye8width =
*.shflav *.eye9 0 0 =
*.nrg 0 *.slime *.eye3 *.veldn 0 =
*.tieloc 0 *.chlr *.nrg =
store
527 *895 *.refeye *.aimright *.thisgene *.veldn *.dnalen =
529 0 !~=
store
*.tout6 16 dropbool
0 *.refdn angle *.velsx *.multi 0 0 =
0 *380 *.ypos 214 *.veldx =
*.out6 *.in6 *.trefshell *.memval 0 0 =
*.sexrepro 0 =
*.vtimer 0 837 mult *.mkvirus *.totalbots *910 clear *490 =
.tin6 store
*.fdbody *.rmchlr *.trefvelyoursx *.out10 *.eye8dir *.deltie 688 =
*.eye9dir *.tielen1 *1089 >=
*.shareslime *.eye9 !%=
16 -1 *.tieang2 909 *.refxpos *613 -4 *.eye4dir >=
store
7 *.readtie *.refaimdx *.out3 =
*789 17 =
0 *.mypoison %=
1023 2 *.vel *.refvelscalar *.xpos *.myaimdx 824 !=
=
*.out1 0 *.refaimsx *.sun -6 <
0 *672 substore
937 *.hitsx 0 <=
0 *.aim 837 *.mkslime *.ypos !%=
*.sharechlr 482 *.refypos =
store
*.aimright *.mysx 483 *.refvelscalar <=
.eye9 store
*.eye3 484 0 674 sgnstore
-10 *.eye8dir *.aimleft 0 0 0 *.refnrg =
*.body *.totalmyspecies *.tout7 -13 0 !%=
*.nrg *.trefvelmyup *.shsx *.tin9 0 =
*.eye4dir -3 !~=
*.reftie -6 -5 *.trefdx *364 *864 ~=
0 store
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 15 Ends at position 3301 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 16 Begins at position 3302 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*.myeye *.mypoison *.bodloss *.tielen2 *.tie 512 *.ploc *.ploc 0 0 =
*.mrepro 445 -15 *955 *.tout9 12 0 !%=
0 457 *.refvelup .timer store
-11 * 0 9 *.tielen3 *.aimleft *.tout8 *.vel div *.eye3 699 *.mrepro *.pwaste *.sx *.eyef *.venval
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 16 Ends at position 3342 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 17 Begins at position 3343 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
start
*.nrg *.backshot *.strvenom 527 *.tin6 =
*.out1 *.thisgene *.veldn *.dnalen 485 800 *.memloc 0 444 *.mkpoison !%=
-18 -30 *.trefvelmydn 445 0 store
*.venom 0 =
446 *.tin5 store
469 *.trefypos ~ 0 =
*.veldx 1 *.pval =
*.veldx 0 *622 180 store
0 *.eye8dir *.aimleft 0 *.bodloss *.veldx 0 *.eye9dir =
*.trefaimdx 0 0 0 =
*.body =
*.mkvirus 0 *.shootval <
619
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 17 Ends at position 3408 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 18 Begins at position 3409 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*.refshoot *.tin1 0 =
-1 | 0 *.shareshell *.eye2width 224 *.shoot =
0 *.pain =
203 0 =
*.shflav *.pwaste 0 *273 =
-6 *.vloc -19 253 =
store
*.pleas *.tieval *.trefvelscalar 226 *.eye2width *.totalmyspecies *.ypos *.trefshoot *.edge *.trefshell *.out2 *.maxvel -8 *.aim *.trefvelyourdn 208 *.shareslime =
0 *.pain *.sharewaste *.refup angle rnd *.waste 0 *.hitdx *.trefshell 211 *.trefaimdx 0 522 ~=
*890 store
*.tin4 0 0 =
302 and
*396 *.tielen1 565 0 *.vtimer *.in10 0 0 <
*.refvelup *.tout5 =
16 .aimright store
0 *.trefdn *.rdboy *.ploc *.mkpoison *.in7 *.out1 =
*364 *880 *.strvenom 0 0 444 %=
*.out2 300 696 *.aimleft *.shdn .ploc store
<
store
-7 %=
715 *.out10 <
0 *.tieloc .myup store
*.eye2width *.tin1 *.tieang3 =
722 0 =
0 -- !~=
>> 0 *.eye5 0 *.setaim *.vtimer -5 *.up *.eyef false
0 store
*.refvelup 0 *.tout3 *.sun *.tout3 *.numties *.refveldn 0 *.refmulti 222 *354 !%=
*.refaim 0 *.refmulti *.veldx *.tout6 =
0 0 <=
*844 *.out8 *659 *.poisoned 0 dec
~ store
=
0 169 0 29 clearbool
.maxvel inc
*225 *.trefvelmysx 0 0 !~=
0 *380 *.sx !~=
store
*.refvelup *.eye4width 215 *.eye9width *.eye4dir 0 9 >=
*.mkpoison *.fixed =
0 *.refeye =
723 0 *.trefvelscalar 0 >> -9 =
*.eye3 dropbool
18 *.chlr store
*.tmemval 0 *.ploc =
681 store
mod 0 =
*.tin6 *780 0 start
!=
*.myaimdx *.tout2 *.trefaim *.body 0 0 *.refdn *.refshoot .sharewaste store
6 *.sx -11 .strbody store
*.fixlen *.tout1 *.trefypos -14 5 3 *.mkslime *.shang 10 -5 *.shup *.paralyzed *.tin10 *.myaimsx 0 *.trefaimdx 0 *.vel *.in10 *.tin5 *.shsx 469 *.trefypos *.refshoot 0 *.refkills *.veldx 0 *663 211 *750 store
*.tin10 *.eye4 *.refaimsx ~=
*.up 9 *.tout6 <=
*.rdboy store
*.tieang1 *.myaimsx -1 !%=
-3 *.refdx floor 225 *.mypoison *.vel -8 *.timer =
*.paralyzed *577 =
0 *.venval *.sharewaste *.refvenom angle over *398 *.dn *.veldx 688 *.venom *.refdn *.mkchlr 0 =
703 0 -19 *.out9 -3 15 *.trefeye *.in9 >
*388 *.veldx 0 0 17 *649 *.eye1 -11 *.shdx *.tin10 *.refaim *.refmulti dec
2 *666 *.trefshell *.refmulti 220 0 *.ploc 0 0 =
*.trefvelmydn 0 *.myup *.tout5 *.fdbody >=
& *.poisoned =
*.hitdn *.eye3dir =
301 *.out3 *.totalbots .aimright store
*
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 18 Ends at position 3774 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 19 Begins at position 3775 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
292 11 *.mass *.refbody =
~ -8 *390 *.shflav .refvelscalar store
716 *.eye3dir add 304 695 *.myaimdx *.poison 0 0 *.out2 *.sharewaste -9
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 19 Ends at position 3798 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 20 Begins at position 3799 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
*.sharewaste *.refvelup *.xpos
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 20 Ends at position 3802 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 21 Begins at position 3803 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*187 *.tieval *.tin5 21 *.tieloc 486 *.trefaimsx *.tin10 *.eye8dir *.setaim 0 572
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 21 Ends at position 3815 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 22 Begins at position 3816 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*.reftype =
*.hitdx *.mkchlr =
*.tielen1 0 =
*.fixpos *.in3 *.trefaimsx -3 *.strvenom *.trefage *.out1 -4 and
else
*.tiepres 0 0 *.delgene =
711 *.trefdx *.poisoned *.rmchlr *.bodloss *.velscalar 712 0 =
*.tieval *.trefvelscalar %=
739 *.tieloc *.refshoot
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 22 Ends at position 3854 '''''''''''''''''''''''
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 23 Begins at position 3855 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
*.shdn *.shootval store
*.vloc <
*.aimright *.tout6 *.eye2dir -11 =
*.eye9dir *.tout5 *.light 0 0 0 *.eye9width store
*.vloc *.eye4dir *.sx *.tielen1 *.strbody 313 *.tielen3 *.mkchlr 0 *.aimright =
*.tout4 *.numties *.refypos 0 *.stifftie 475 *.mkvirus =
angle 476 =
*.pval *.in7 *.tin10 angle 24 0 *.vel *.tielen *.eye7dir %=
-6 -21 ~=
++ *882 >=
*.bodloss *.out2 *394 523 mod =
*.refshoot *.in10 =
*.eye8dir *.tin2 <
-2 *.edge !%=
*.body *.trefbody *333 0 *231 *.tout1 ~ *-14 *20 11 *.in1 *.out6 -1 206 *.up *.myties 5 4 =
*.trefeye 0 =
*-309 0 0 *.in1 *.refveldx *.tin8 *.mkslime *.fdbody *248 and
store
0 =
*.refup *.refxpos =
<=
*.eye5width 7 =
*.setboy *.sx %=
.tout3 absstore
stop
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 23 Ends at position 3974 '''''''''''''''''''''''
*.shareslime *495 *.refage 442 <
-- -18 *515 >
sin *.hitdx *.tout7 0 =
616 *.fixpos and
*.shdx -9 =
*.refup store
=
*.mysx 4 !~=
*.refkills 0 *.rmchlr 0 *.eye8 =
*.eye4dir *.treffixed !%=
*.sexrepro *433 *.shang *.fixlen 0 *.eye2width 510 *.in8 =
store
<=
505 !=
*.daytime =
store
*.trefvelyourdx =
*.in6 0 store
*.refage *.daytime =
*.refvenom *.in10 *.robage *.refvelscalar *.fertilized *578 sub *623 & 4 <
-10 *.eye4dir =
store
store
*.tin6 >
*342 *.myaimsx *.aimright 2 0 *.myshoot *.vel -19 *.out1 7 7 !~=
*.tiepres 0 819 *.veldn *.out9 =
*.out2 *.eye5width =
5 0 *.tin5 *.hitdn *.hitdn *.stifftie 5 -5 pow <
0 *.tin7 *.chlr -1 %=
*.eye4dir *.shsx *.tin2 angle *.trefaimsx *.in8 =
*516 .refvelscalar store
~=
*.hitup *.refvelscalar 18 !~=
store
store
<
0 *.refshell *.mysx *.stifftie *.refaim *.shdx 0 0 =
*.pleas 0 *.refvenom *.setaim *.daytime store
*.tieval 0 !~=
store
0 *.eye1dir 10 *.fixpos *.bodloss *193 ~ !%=
.tin3 ceilstore
*.tout1 304 *.trefdn *.refvelup *.refmulti *.numties >=
=
*.tielen4 *.tin2 =
0 0 *.pwaste *.refpoison 0 =
0 =
*.aimleft store
=
*.in1 2 *.dn *.maxvel sgn *915 *.refpoison *.aimleft =
store
absstore
*862 *892 *623 *.fertilized *.in9 >
*.refvelup *.eye1dir *.hitsx =
*.eye6 5 *.tieang4 0 *.refvelup =
314 0 *.kills *.velsx store
!%=
305 *.eye6width *.in10 store
*.fixed =
330 *.tmemval *.tin6 572 0 store
*.tin9 *.refvenom !%=
699 0 *.ypos *.tout2 -1 =
*.trefvelscalar floor *.sharewaste 399 0 *.vel *.in10 *.eye4dir *.tin6 *.vloc 5 *.tin10
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 24 Begins at position 4223 '''''''''''''''''''''''
cond
*.shdx =
store
6 *.fixlen >
*36 store
*.eye7 *.out3 0 =
<
*.trefdn =
*.daytime -3 *.trefsx *.mkshell stop
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 24 Ends at position 4243 '''''''''''''''''''''''
*.shdn -18
'''''''''''''''''''''''' Gene: 25 Begins at position 4246 '''''''''''''''''''''''
else
<=
=
0 *.eye4 *.fixpos 214 0 =
*.repro store
*494 false
*0 *.eye4dir 0 *.trefshoot *.mkpoison *.fixed >=
261 *.trefsx =
~ *.out1 21 =
*.aimshoot 0 add 805 *.vshoot *.backshot *.hitdx *.tout4 *.refvelup 802 *.venval *.in10 -11 *.trefvelyoursx *.tielen1 *.refypos 0 81 store
*.out8 *.tout9 *.mypoison 804 *.tin8 *.refaimsx *.hitdx *.trefshoot =
*266 19 *.trefvelyourup -4 7 *.eye3 811 -30 *430 0 0 =
*.tiepres =
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It's based on this post http://forum.darwinbots.com/index.php/topic,2639.0.html
I just took all the sysvars and padded "0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 " in between random ones sometimes, ran it a few million cycles while messing around with the environment, and picking out the best one every so often.
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Yes, eco-survival restarts also.
What is a winner scoring box?
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It's what I'm calling the box that comes up and says something about "winner" while comparing the 2 bots. There's also a "W" button for each bot.
Oh, and I've never had eco-survival restart.
*edit* checked the source-code, it's the contest form.
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Ok, the only way to test how efficient a robot is, is to run it in league mode (winner box)
If it crashes or freezes during this mode, zip me your entire evolution folder, Lastran.set, and global.get. TY.
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Also please give me restartmode.gset to be sure.
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Also thank god you have access to the source, you can help me debug it.
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Here is what happened in your simulation over night. I think I can call that a result. Experiment terminated.
Also, I will debug your robot myself in survival mode what I get a chance, I have a feeling it is just too unstable to even live alone, that is, it is not combat ready.
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Finally, let me add that I do have documentation, I just want to publish it properly like proper research. See you next weekend.
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The tide idea seems like so much fun, but I can already see the complications building up...
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Ok, how about this: The tides are nothing but a giant invisible shape that is generated where the tide starts. Then the shape moves to where the tide ends, and moves backwards to where it was generated. Then the process is repeated. This shape could have variables that aren't in normal shapes, such as the ability for a bot to pass through the shape with little or no resistance. It's simple. Kind of like a big, invisible push broom.
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How about just set the feeding methods to quote 'favor large sterile vegys' How about actual wait for a mod to come out and play with it yourself before making further comments? How about actually figuring out why a certain feature is not working before claiming a senior rev. has no idea what he is doing?
I do not know how networking works but I am trying my best to learn it.
I do not know how ecosystems with chloroplasts really form but my desire to move on to stuff I actually understand has over powered my curiosity at this point.
Like any person I have a set of goals in life, and recreating another earth is not on the list.
This is my last statement on the subject.
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I guess Botsareus are eager to get Darwinbots 2 finished and done with. I personally don't think it needs any more features. Also there must be a limit how much you can add to it before it starts to slow down to much.
There's eventually going to be a Darwinbots 3 at some point, with maybe a lot of cool new things for the next generation of computers. :)
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I'm okay with beginning work on DB3. I just basically use what I have right now.
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Trying to answer every post in 1 here.
Debugging
I can try and help you with debugging Botsareus, but I'm afraid that I'm but a clever amateur. I can learn, and I understand the concept, but no clue how much actual help I'll be. (I'm Canadian, we're soup sandwich soft compared to you Russians)
Overnight Sim with 8174bot
The overnight simulation looked interesting, especially the split between bot sizes, did you notice anything else that was interesting?
That bot is just a mash of nonsense I've been evolving, I don't think it needs to be debugged yet. After 3 million cycles it was the only one to have 15 generations and a kill.
Documentation
By documentation I really just meant a small blurb on the Darwinbots Wiki. One that says how you start it up, what you should be watching for, how you restart it after the program closes, how it backs up bots to an evolution folder, etc.
Complications due to Tidal mode
As for complications arising due to tidal mode. My hope was that it would be a simple method to tie several physical functions together, that may yield some unforeseen results. If it got complex, or became a headache, my recommendation would be to ditch it in favor of Darwinbots as a whole. My intention is not to clog up the development process, or cause Botsareus undue stress.
Using a large shape to stir/Rebuilding the Earth!
The stirring with the shape concept is something I thought of as well when coming up with the tidal idea. As the shapes were static, I thought it would be harder to implement than gravity cycling. Either way Botsareus doesn't want to rebuild Earth, so I'm not about to make him.
Favoring work towards Darwinbots 3
If development wants to go towards Darwinbots 3, fine by me. I just saw development still going forwards with 2, so thought I'd add a suggestion. Had no idea if anyone would pick it up in the first place. I'm quite excited for Darwinbots 3 myself :)
Thanks for everyone paying this much attention to my whimsical idea though! :D
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Complications due to Tidal mode + Using a large shape to stir/Rebuilding the Earth!
Wait for DB3, my goal was to last you guys out until I get IM working.
Also, I am not the one to blame for IM still not working. I have tried my best.
Documentation
I already explained that I have documentation, just waiting for a review to submit it.
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Complications due to Tidal mode + Using a large shape to stir/Rebuilding the Earth!
Wait for DB3, my goal was to last you guys out until I get IM working.
Also, I am not the one to blame for IM still not working. I have tried my best.
Documentation
I already explained that I have documentation, just waiting for a review to submit it.
As far as I can tell you're doing a wonderful job Botsareus! I've seen your posts on trying to get IM working, you're obviously trying very hard.
Hopefully it starts behaving for you soon, and ends your mission to get it working.
Not only for your sake, but I'm sure everyone wants to play with some IM
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Yeah, the tidal idea sounds cool. LOL. I thought page 4 in this thread was the first page so I completely missed the discussion you've been having here. :P
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Tidal mode is in the latest version now, trying it out 2.48.06.
Thanks very much Botsareus, seems perfect so far, just trying it with your new light mode on an overnight eco-evolution sim.
Hope to get some new results :D