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Bots and Simulations => Bestiary => Mutations => Topic started by: Ispettore on October 23, 2007, 12:51:12 PM
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Hi. This one evolved from SWARM in a very hostile environment, where are only shooting algae. It has a simply behavior: it moves, ties to everything, drains all energy, helps his frieds and eats others. It has pratically no body and energy, and a very short lifespan. But it is very strong. I tried many bots against it, but nobody defeated it (I think it is only beacause it is so small that 99% of the times they miss him. But here is the dna:
'#name: Swarm.txt
'#generation: 967
'#mutations: 75
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330 1 *.robage sub 0 floor add inc
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535 cond
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5 *.robage 1 -855 >
708 *.myeye =
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*.refaim 19 *.robage sgn mult and
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*.eye5 0 *.refeye *.myeye !=
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*.refvelup 50 -- add 1 stop
angle cond
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*.eye5 sgn 19 | store
abs *.myeye !=
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*544 1 -682 ~ 19 angle *.robage sgn mult .sharenrg store
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cond
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*491 34 | *.refeye *.myeye !=
19 -6 start
-392 store
*417 -750 store
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>
*.body start
.repro store
rnd -21 cond
*.nrg 2000 >
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100 .strbody store
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*.nrg 500 <
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*.body *.body 199 stop
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.up store
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What is so strong about the bot, it has got a carcervarious nature, it repros any times it gets, that too why it has a short lifespan, see all the the strange circles from the bot population, well that are bots dying. It hasn's got a ability to kill any of todays bots, I have tested a few old ones cicum(thinges) and ancester(thinges) it did beat those, but they aren't really compatible with todays darwinbots, they act pretty strange.
If I am right swarm has'nt got a tie normally so it's a spectaculair mutation, it also uses it right, that's a little special.
These bots are alot smaller then they use to be, (at most bots it takes a while before they kill the last specie)
So the bot have become a lot smaller in the last version.
That could be a new strategy of beating the leagues, making a bot that small nobody can even find so can't defeat it,
Let's see, .
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Tried it vs normal swarm, spiral, cannibot, tiebot, lionfish and many stupid bots; nobody could beat it. I know it is strange that he uses ties... but the dna changed almost completely, luckily it did'nt started canniboting...
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Neat, you may have accomplished my challenge (http://www.darwinbots.com/Forum/index.php?showtopic=2200). Run F1 rounds with your evolved bot vx it's original, your evolved bot vs. Animal Minimalis, and Animal minimalis vs. the original. Post the results here, and I'll determine if you've achieved it or not.
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Neat, you may have accomplished my challenge (http://www.darwinbots.com/Forum/index.php?showtopic=2200). Run F1 rounds with your evolved bot vx it's original, your evolved bot vs. Animal Minimalis, and Animal minimalis vs. the original. Post the results here, and I'll determine if you've achieved it or not.
cool I didn't even know of your challenge ! For f1 rounds you mean rounds with the f1 default costs? And do the veggies must be alga minimalis or I can change it?
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Go to the Restart and League tab, and check "use F1 conditions". When you start your sim, you'll be running an F1 contest. It'll run 5 instances (at least) to determine which is the better bot.
You'd need to run with Animal Minimalis to win my challenge, but go ahead and contests with your custom veggy, too.
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Well I put the f1 costs and alga min as veggy. At the moment I tried just one vs animal minimalis, cuz my bot reproduces just too much with normal costs, it evolved with very havy costs, and my simulation run at 0.2 cycles\second , it is too slow!
Nanobot won the match. I tried also 5 matches of original swarm vs a minimalis (guess who won? swarm of course...), but I still have to play nanobot vs swarm at normal costs... I tried it many times at higher costs, and the nanobots always won. I will end the tests maybe tomorrow.
EDIT: I did it with f1 costs but without using restart & league... I will retry doing it right and we'll see if something changes.
EDIT2: Did it! It didn't last so much... nanobot vs a. minimalis 5-0, original swarm vs a. minimalis 5-0, nanobot vs swarm: can't do it, cos they are of the same specie for the program... but I did it many times without using the league program and nanobot do always win...
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Remove the
'#
lines from your evolved DNA and try again with the original vs. your mutated bot. You're well on your way to winning the challenge
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Did it! I won 5-0 vs swarm!!! I think I won the contest !
I'll soon post a better evolved version of this bot... I rename it: now it's Cancerous Parasite!!!
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Cool! I'll verify your results later today then declare you the winner.
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Yeah, try it.
BTW, I played it with alga runaways ( forum normal version) as veggy
EDIT: In your topic you say that N° of mutation must be less than original dna lenght... but it is much more in my bot! And it's dna also shortened a lot from the original...
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Where can swarm(the first version) be ever found, I can't seem to find it in the beastery .
I you used alga runaways I could be a reason swarm developed tieing. With shooting alot of the backcoming nrg-shots miss their target. I tested with swarm2 it won with alga mini and alga runa. So I gues you had to be using the orgiginal swarm who isn't even in the league anymore. Swarm2 stands in the league.
How long did the fight between animal minimalis and the mutated swarm last mine mine is still fighting.
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I took it from the forum's swarm, so I think it is the last version. And I used a shooting alga as only vegetable for its evolution. It won vs the original, tried it many times, starting at 5 vs 5 with the same energy.
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I took it from the forum's swarm, so I think it is the last version. And I used a shooting alga as only vegetable for its evolution. It won vs the original, tried it many times, starting at 5 vs 5 with the same energy.
Could you give me a link to the swarm you mean,somehow I just can't seem to find a bot that is being defeated by ''Cancerous Parasite!!!'', good name it suits it perfect.
btw, your bot hasn't got a single chance in my sims against swarm2 at all conditions. So that's why I am wondering at the swarm you use.Could be the V1 I can't find.
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It was taken by the bot in the f2 part of bestiary.
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You mean this one,
Swarm 2.0 (http://www.darwinbots.com/Forum/index.php?showtopic=2036&hl=swarm)
In that case swarm is just beating your bot in my sim, if your bot beats swarm instead upload the swarm file you mean.
I just can'r reproduce your results , I am sorry. Maybe Numsgil can reproduce your results. In that case I am doing something wrong, I am just wondering what it is. that I would be doing wrong.
Atleast I get some firework from your bot.
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I don't know. I tried the sim lot of times... ps how can swarm win against this? swarm did not ever catch it with shoots!!!
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I just don't get to the result, If the bot is that strong it could be the first league-bot that is coming from a mutated bot.
And that's pretty good, meaning that a possible futeristic league winner could be mutated.
Further posting on this topic seems like more and more time-wasting.
I will go send Numsgil a PM to 'wake' him up. In one of his earlier posts he said he is gonna verify the result later today. As the day today is pretty long, I am guesing he forget about it.
He then can run the league, and then call your clain of the first league-bot true or false. A bot beating swarm2 is trully league worthy.
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I can't reproduce your results either.
What version are you using? 2.43 or something more modern?
Post the version of swarm you're using.
Post a save of a sim with your bot in it fighting animal minimalis so we can see the settings you're using.
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I want to add something on the list of Numsgil,
Post the mutated swarm version you used. (to be sure this one isn't the wrong one)
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I was using the basic version 2.43... I've downloaded the recent one only 2 days ago, I understand why it doesn't worked... do anyone still use it?
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A few people still use 2.43, mostly for long run evo sims. There is nothing wrong with it, just doesn't have some of the new features including the new sysvars. I recently updated the download page so that more people get directed to the buddy drops. I'm getting close to releasing an "official" 2.44.
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I wasn't really interested in the version you used, I ran 2.43 and 2.44 both
It don't really matter much witch version you use becouse.
a ) the differensces between 2.43 and the (becoming)2.44 are pretty small, the only main difference that could make things different is probably the body size, in 2.44 will there be a bigger difference to small and big if I am not wrong.
b ) It doesn't run in earlier versions, there isn't a end at the end of the dna, cousing any version to crash.
But, okay the questions we would have liked to answer.
What version are you using?
Anwser:2.43
Post the version of swarm you're using.
No post/upload.
Post a save of a sim with your bot in it fighting animal minimalis so we can see the settings you're using.
No post/upload.
Post the mutated swarm version you used.(just being sure)
No post/upload.
We just like you to upload the dna-files and the sim-file, so we can check how the sim has run on your computer, maybe you had different settings or a different swarm-dna or...... , anything.
You can ad any attechments/uploads beneath here.
There where stands ''file attechments'' in front.
Edit: I just learned B )(without space) is forming .
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Moving this topic to bot mutations.