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Untagged bots / Preying Plankton
« on: July 04, 2008, 02:26:05 PM »
Debuged:
*.vel *.trefvel sub *.timer add mod 20 rnd 1 2 mult mod *.tin5 *.tielen mult *.mass mult *.eyef mod *.tin10 add *.numties *.tiepres add mult add .fixlen store

so it could have been this error here:
*.vel *.trefvel sub *.timer add mod 20 rnd 1 2 mult mod *.tin5 *.tielen mult *.mass mult *.eyef mod *.tin10 add *.numties *.tiepres add mult add .fixlen store
45 .stifftie store .fixlen store
45 .stifftie store

I removed the double stiftie store, and the redundant fixlen store. My guess is that somewhere the 45 from stifftie and the fixlen value found before were added or multiplied or something. I've managed to correct this in the next release of Plankton Kinetic. Also I still manage to find a new behavior every test, so Im going to try and figure out a way to get these behaviors ingrained as being able to be selected based on specification. For now tho, it acts just how I like it, so I may not change it beyond this third release.

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 29, 2008, 01:00:12 AM »
Its geometric to time because the fact that it was remembered means that information from the previous time is contained still, and still apart of the system. THis is waht Im trying to get at. Take for example this following simpler scenario:

You have a small child that's hungry, a table and an apple. Those are three facts which are seperable, the three bodies are not the same and have different information in each. If the chidl decides to let the fruit sit wihtout eating it, the fruit will rot and regardless of the decision made the information of the apple changes because of entropy. The child can slow or quicken this entropy by its own information or using another object in this imaginary room. The amount of information contained in this room over the period of T time, is I^T. Why? Well its because each piece of information grows exponentialy to time because as time progresses more information is created (thats not saying matter is created). The amount of information is easily time1*time2*time3 since 1*2*3 would 6, and the amount of information between any object and another is always duplicated by the fact that it has a history which can be observed, so the amount of information in the same space grows exponetially to the amount of time observed and not observed. Also in theoretical geometry the 4th dimension is raised to the power of time, assuming that time could be an axis of perspective which is considerably possible given the fact that humans have quite capable minds. And I dont have any hard facts to back this, but neither does the string theory. Anyways, fun discussion. The thing you pointed to Nums would be what I refer to as Modular thought, meaning anything can be said to mean anything through translation. Which basically means I've wasted everyone's time but nonetheless it was meant to get ppl to think about abstract ideas, like assigning information values. And dinosaurs I thought broke down into fossil fuels, along with plant matter; and moose havent made us to much fuel I dont think lol.

Aby.. wow... If I understood that, I'm crazy...

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 24, 2008, 10:56:09 AM »
No thanks.

Trying to evade raptors seems extremely irrelevant to the topic. Also I have thought more about the time lapse purpose of the equation. If you recall the 4d sphere. Well imagine that all knowledge is contained within the dimension its percieved through, that means that things like location and distances are 3d. But as each progression of events unfolds, the amount of amplification in entropy remains to be the same if you consider that entropy might be conserved, as a relative way to allow for the Universe to experience varrying levels of Entropy, not saying it has a limit, but that entropy is relative to everything in the universe. So as each event happens, the amount of information is 4d in nature, since entropy follows an inverse squares law should you graph it as a wave, as time continues the amount of entropy from something (previous) remains constant. That is to say the butterfly flapping its wings once to start a hurricane, could die moments later but the entropy of the wing has already continued in the hurricane. So all knowledge of the future can be found by taking the Universal time stamp of the future, subtracting the opresent time stamp from it, and then raising it to the power of Time. This means that no matter what action is taken, the entropy of that action continues indefinitely (cause and effects can be described in this way, as the past cannot be changed). Now if you're wanting to discuss theoretical physics, I'm all yours, but I simply have no time to imagine a raptor, its liek trying to imagine a moose that stands 20 feet from hoof to ear. Its not really practical because it doesnt occur in nature anymore, however the entroyp it created continues to this day, in the form of oil and global warming.

Regardless of what some DB discussion bot makers think of my ideas, this discussion was meant for understanding knowledge on a universal scale.

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 12, 2008, 03:47:22 PM »
Umm I did it much easier. Remember d=vt. well I just remembered that accelerating from 0 to anything at any rate will give you a sumation of distances for the inital few seconds, and then once it hits top speed its simple addition. So I did 20/4 and came up with about 5 seconds, and that put the raptor 60 meters up, and the human  coudl only cover 6*5 meters, or 30, so it would be 70 meters out or 10 meters from the raptor by then, simple subtraction got me the extra second and some it would take to catch up. As for the second question, I was never to good with vectors, especially ones like that that leave a large room for an answer of interpretation. If you run to the two faster raptors, you're dead sooner. So I just went with immediate easiest described, otherwise I have a range of 90-180 degrees of choices to choose from and I never took calculous.

So redemption: its 20 meters away I assume and still accelerates at 4m/s2, so in 2.5 seconds it will reach top speed, and in that time will have convered only 22 meteres, and the human runs 6m/s, so we can do 10-6 4m/s is the difference.. I would say about 6 seconds as its half the distance and halfe the speed, and t=d/v and 40/20=20/10.
And the distance would be 6*6 about 36 meters away. I think thats correct.

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 12, 2008, 09:10:34 AM »
No idea what a suvat is at this point.

I did answer the question right, only I gave it in time (secs). in 6.13 seconds the human travels 37 some meters... Also the human is going three body lengths a second if the human is 6 feet tall, which is quite fast for such a slow and underdeveloped animal. 6.13*6m/s...... I didnt use guess and check.... I did it in my head as I have always done with algebra.... Sorry my answer was in worng format.

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 11, 2008, 05:21:21 PM »
Nums, I would never attempt to pass on fabricated information as fact. ANd as for the pseudo-science related post of John  Rife, my data cannot be posted for legality; we had lab certification but no medical backing, and the research is actually a violation of federal law without a medical certificate (or license). Thats not to say theres no effect, my animal pound uses Ifrared lamps for some sort of thearopy, not that I believe it..

Mice are the number most intelligent speices around, so I say go with them, as they are pandimensional.

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 11, 2008, 05:17:31 PM »
Quote from: Peter
Well um..., gymsum.

You tend to like calculations and mathematics, then here is a little test. Anwser the questions correct and I will serious read your post. If you canĀ“t figure this out, well...


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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 11, 2008, 07:56:14 AM »
I made the assumption that in order to gain a new idea, previous ideas needed to exsist... And true, I dont know anything about the brain, but oops. THen I ued relatively longer equations with no powers, and simplified them, but then again it is made up, thats because Im not willing to spend my life collecting the data. Also, according to whoever's in a wheelcahir and famous (correct me I dont care at this point), blackholes do not destroy all the information and apparently release the information contained very slowly. Also, I presented everything with a fictional backing, so my mathematics match only the model I presented, I dont know if I made the claim it was a real world model or not, but definitely shouldn't be taken as one, its merely a system with a lion, rock, and a stupid being with a relatively low IQ. So I don't see where real world statistics need apply to the equations fo the model, as it isnt even a real world model. So it would seem you overreacted to my post.

Secondly, if you followed the model you would have seen a simple addition, to go from who to what took information of the named thing and identify it to a larger group (or what it is relative to all other known thigns). SO to know why took who what when and where, and since I assumed why had more to do with reasoning than how, how was not used as it was assumed that it had a similar meaning to why. Also why would knowledge follow the basics of thermodynamics? If so I'ld have to say your purposing something without any fictional or real backing.

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 10, 2008, 07:52:51 PM »
Quote from: Testlund
Quote from: Peter
Let start the war with the crow.

I'll join the crows in the battle then!  

You do realze taht according to this post, the crow only knows everything about how to find and keep food... So I dont see the crow looking for something if its not worth hunting, and I say we use the Eagle, as its much larger and smarter than a crow.

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 09, 2008, 08:52:02 PM »
And the answer of the Crow: Food over there!

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 09, 2008, 06:58:53 PM »
Ok, after working the definitions and the problem, I have simplified the entire Totality formula.

Since we know that E^5 is relative to time, we can exchange E for time but only if we have another definition, an average for the amount of time to learn something, to do so we can extrapolate from the 5 categories which we numerated to mean a different question. The amount of time to learn is difficult to calculate, as it would be the sum of all known names/things/events/places/reasons for the reciever divdided by their IQ (which can assume quantifies some abilitiy to process information and/or think) and multiplied by its numerical value, 1 for Who, 2 for What, 3 for When, 4 for Where, and 5 for Why, as it requires the previous set of series to complete a thought for those with trouble orienting thoughts and what is important. So to remember a face in a room of 5 people for someone with an IQ of 134 should remember in v^5*T/(T-(IQ*T)), since it would requrie all known knowledge for someone with lower IQs. The time calculated can be found be multiplying the result by IQ, the result then should be in seconds (assuming again, that the IQ provided is 99.9% accurate, and that the IQ represents the ability of the person to process information over a period of time). For the above the simplified and reduced version is:

Te = 134*(1^5*5^1 /(5^1-(134*5^1))) = one minute, which is considerably fast for someone with such a low IQ.

So we now have a value for how long it is to learn something related to all previous knowledge, which assumes that the more you learn and remember, the harder it is as you progress, or as you collect too much information. That is assuming that all humans have a finite amount of memory, which seems to hold true since we can remember a life time, but often lose the ability to learn as fast. If you dont want to assume this, then simple take: (AGE) log(base10) IQ/v^5, where the log assumes that there is no limit on information that can be learned, and that the amount of information stored is relative to time.

So the amount of total information in the known Universe, could be defined using time, assuming that no information exsists before we apreciate it. Since the definition of time or the answer to when was related to emotional markers, we know that each experience draws on those markers, and thus as time progress the amount of information would thus grow indefinitely.

(14^(Time-Te)*S*CB*LB^v)/C = T, where 14 is the sum of all numerical values raised to the power of time, or the point at which it is now untilit is discovered, or Time-Te.

Feel free to tweek with it some, and ask me if any of it is too confusing. Enjoy.

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 09, 2008, 04:30:30 PM »
Back to the crow: The raven is smarter.

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RANT / Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
« on: June 09, 2008, 04:28:34 PM »
I will no longer respond in the Crow post sicne the discussion is far from crows.

Numbers have been used to quantify ideas of behaviors or other ideas which are not measured by any object undergoing such implications of that number. For example, a rock with 100Kg of mass will weigh 980 newtons, but the rock dose not need to know it to have this result. So the idea of 100,000 grams having an aplied force of 9.8 times its mass is only necessary to a being that understands the concept of a number better than quantifying how many offspring it had, or how much food it needs. The same is true with velocity vectors, the result can be made the same regardless of the numbers, because the numbers are quantifying the result, and the result is quantifying the numbers (otherwise the numbers do not truely quantify what it means perceptively to gain that result). This is because numbers are meaningless beyond the experience of their use to quantify something.

To first understand how we quantify our thoughts, we must understand how we categorize a thought. Since its entirely up to the individual, the reciever must dictate how a thought corrolates with another thought, to allow for conotations and denotations (our two main categories for how one sifts through information presented to them). Once the intention is understood, the thought can be labled an entity, name (self-dependent and exo-dependent, meaning this can be determined by the speaker or reciever, dont care if they are words, that is part of my point to the counting system, but to avoid ovderlaps in theory we will assume exo-dependent means the information category is depednant on another part of the speach, or the speaker). To begin we start with the basics: Who?

To know what a reciever is seeing, it must be able to know if they recognize something or someone. To a being having experienced nothing before, comes across a rock face on a cliff, it will recognize it later, key to knowing the environment. But for every object we percieve, there exsists a finite amount of more objects to be viewed and given a name(s)-to avoid arguments over things like specialization vs intelligence of the being. We can assume that if the being is alive, its entire field of perception holds some emptyness to it, meaning there is room to see. For every object seen, there stands to be an infinite amount of information withheld from simply knowing its name, or whom we call something or someone. To really understand the environment, this being must ask more than just who, it needs some way to classify the type of entity (another set of who) so that if it calls a rock a rose, and it sees a similar rock it can know that is part of the rose group (or whatever it dictates to be a rock). This allows for a set of more complex questions which must be fufilled before the being can have any real intelligence to it. It knows who and what, but it doesnt haev a clue for what its food is and what it needs to do in order to survive.

The next step is to assume the being quantified emotions much similar to the way it quantified the categories of thought. These emotions can be used to quntify another experience, time. The question of when did something occur is key to answering the next set of question we have yet to quantify for this being. A change in emotional status, such as hunger or pain, or pleasure and abbundance can be used to relate to them something I will get to later. The being comes to a rock and takes the coarse of a lion to run up it, since the being enjoyed watching a mountain lion pounce from cliff rock to cliff rock, the being attempts it and falls, the change in emotional status changes the way the being percieves rocks, mountain lions and/or itself simultaneously, as the experience is challenging the limited experience of this being, assuming it still yet has to identify itself. For all it knows it could have been a mountain lion, this result begs to differ with its memories. So through a grace of mistake, the being now understands a concept of when, it saw a mountain lion previously, attempted to follow after it in the same fasion, and failed. A chronological order based on emotional memory. I wont go into quantifying emotions as that would be like applying smileys to every number without a simple system.

Because it now understands a process of memories which dictate who, what and when, it can begin to draw a map of its surroundings. The rock was there, I went somewhere else, and the mountain lion is still in its cave. Its not incredibly accurate, its not GPS, but the being knows from its perspective that its below a rock, and a lion. It knows somewhat more about the mountain lion and rock than the earth he landed on, and has somewhate of an idea of where it is. As it explores and experiences more, this expands and its concept for quantifying distances changes with each alteration to the previously quantified thoughts.

Lastly comes why. Why did the being fall where the mountain lion had succeede? For a being with nothing to go by as far as a previous generation, this is quite difficult to answer with one experience alone. It must attempt to follow the behaviors of many other beings to fully understand its place in the ecosystem, and/or know what its purpose is for asking such a stupid question. Its quite obvious to us that if we saw a mountain lion jumping, we wouldnt attempt to do likewise, we'ld shoot it because its been taught to us that the lion is for food. The being will eventually know what is food, after trying everything and anything it comes across (assuming nothing can kill him). So how long will it take the being to achieve a full answer to all of its questions? Thats another set of numbers to be given a meaning.

For evey thought, there exsists 5 others to give that thought a meaning. So we can take the total entries in the Encyclopedia Encarta and assume that it contains ALL current and up to date information within its archives. For every entry, there will exsist 5 sets of information to explain the concept fully. For every set, there will be an entirely other set of information to be used in the Dictionary to agian relate the 5 sets to themselves. So what is the total amount of information that can possibly be gained from the universe? Well its quite large, so large in fact, that the Universe itself would fit in it multiple times if it were quantified as volume.

n to infinity

C = (E^5*D^25)*L where c is a constant for universal translation, and L is the total number of known languages in use (not including theoreticals).
CB = all known celestial bodies in the Universe
LB = CB/all celestial bodies in the Universe life can exsist.
((((E^5*D^25)^n)*S)*CB*LB)^5)/C = T, where E is Encyclopedia entries, D is Dictionary definitions, and n is the the current thougth in the series, or information (assuming something like the letter a is 1 on the scale), and T is the total number of ideas and S is all the species of the world with more brain power than bacteria. (this is assuming all information catilogued in the Encyclopedia on astrology and astronomy contain full details such as a database for all known stars and systesm). If this assumption holds false, simply add the numbers to E and D before raisng them to the 5th or 25th. Also, I cannot find any information which holds the total information of any alien species, so we cannot fully calculate the entire Universal Unknown, but we can do our very limited perspective.

To know how much of the total information has been collected (not assuming this information adds to the previous series), we take all the knonw information an individual posses for say 100 people world wide, multiply that by the total population of the earth and divide it by the Total. So while we learn more, the percentage of knonw information grows incredibly slow, while the total number of known things grows exponentialy.

we will assume th knonw information average and call it I.
I*(P)/T = k where I is knowledge average (or iq if it suits you, doesnt matter requires same amount of information), P is the Population of the Earth and T is total kowledge.

The unknown I assume is incalculable, since T is geometric to itself, or a reflection of itself due to the quantifying problem that numbers can overlap and mean differnt things.

Edited: Realized this did not include all bodies of information.

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 06, 2008, 09:29:45 AM »
If all ovjects share a graviatational atraction, why dont atoms share this? Are you saying that even thought we are made of mass and we dont collapse that its not because of a repelent force which exsists in all matter?

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Biology / Crows are pretty damn smart
« on: June 05, 2008, 06:23:36 PM »
We already know that a Modulous (or even Modular fucntion) can be used to create counting systems. But it doesnt matter if you do so, the numbers can be translated; but its when you attempt to count the entire possible counting systems that its no longer calculable. True, we have a profound understanding for how things work; true we know that the Big Bang seems likely from this. But even with all our current knowledge, we know just as little of our creation as the ancients that mystified themselves with religious figures and magical ideas. Regardless of what we may be able to percieve from our own world, we still lack many phenomena that occur frequently throughout our universe. The theory of multiple dimensions (which is actually part of the string theory 'multi-dimensional harmonic strings') proves that because of a limitation in percepetion, there exsists an infinity which nothing can nomprehend. We as humans have the ability to ask why, and its still a profound question. Asking Why inplies that the action or result was caused by some set of agenda, or motive or plot. But Why the Universe works is as complex a question as asking why water can become all three states at once with no way of possibly showing the results without mere numbers (like in this post). So why does the Universe do what it does? Well each theory of physics explained the reaction we see and what mathematical equation fit the conditions. True 1+1 = 2 and so does 3-1, its the same result under completely different circumstances. So even if the same result is deduced there exists an infinite potential for how the result is achieved.

Honestly, I never learned the table of Elements because it was of no use to me, I just copied them down for biology. Regardless of how fusion works in the sun, its still where my thought of vibrational frequencies came in. The way the enteractions occur and the way sound waves interfere and augment, and the way light blends. The mechanics which causes the sound waves to augment could be said to be the same as doppler on light waves (since the augmentation in hot air causes the speed of sound to increase and bend the sound towarsds the ground much similar to light bending around gravity). Verying levels of pressure in a closed system will produce verying levels in gravity, since the more pressure the more content there is within the space or pocket. So the final energy we have yet to understand is dark energy, which has a repelling force. It exsists everywhere, but the balance between matter with positive gravity and dark matter is crutial to preventing every object in the Universe from collapsing in onitself into a singularity. This balance I believe is a rythm more or less, since the amount of Dark Energy makes up more than 50% of the entire mass of the Universe (otherwise we would be collapsing, not speeding up). And since we as beings are composed of this balance, the result is a being in constant flux (not necessarly mentaly but physically). Everything must be able to expand to live, otherwise the being can not store any energy and thus cannot function even genetically. So our entire knowledge of the Universe and Absolutely Everything, is limited to the fact that we have only experienced one universe, we often only live in 3 dimensions at best, and perception of reality within our own habitat is based on the idea of self-superiority rather than knowing everything that follows some code or logic. Also, not every person involved to finding new discoveries is 100% efficient or successful, it took Socrates alone to discover what he knew about the Earth (or so its written).

The problem I see with people that have to ask who started everything, is that that kind of quesiton is based on the fact that somebody else started you hopefully for a reason. But with the Universe everything happens for no purpose that is of any importance, there is no magical spaceship to take us all off to heaven, and most certainly we will be completely unable to prevent or guide how what and when the Universe does anything. To do so would mean that the Universe has a counciousness, and a set of moral codes you could use to fast talk the Universe out of or into doing something.

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