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Happy Birthday Griz!
Greven:
--- Quote ---why im skeptic? thats my nature, I skeptice anything that doesnt seem possible. 59? comon he is ready to stop working and be like those old ppl who just complain on us young ppl like "in my days we didnt talk to old ppl like you" while we answer "sorry granny but this is my days and we do it, so buzz off". for moder nature he is like trash (dont take it persinal) he going out for and is bieng wiped out just to live room for us young ones. aswell as we are gonna be when we grow old, man I dont wanna be a slow senil old man.
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Holy cow, and you think I sound like Hitler???
Maybe in Sweden you have such thoughts about elderly people, but not in Denmark. Actually I think it is rather cool. Like Griz him self said, you could learn something from him. Remember knowledge and wisdom doesnt fall down from the trees. Really I dont understand you... By the way, can you tell me why mother-nature, has equiped us with such a long lifespan... Maybe it is becuase, they (elderly people) actually have a positive effect on the fitness of the human race.
They are a great resource of knowledge, wisdom and experince... That all younger constribute from. Even more, they have built the society you live in. They are the reason that you dont live in caves ;), they are the reason that you live at all.
Maybe we should setup some koncentration camps and gas them with cyclon B, so we get ride of this menace, just like your ancestors did... ;)
Og tag dig så sammen Zelos, du er en skamplet på det skandinaviske landkort og for vores samfunds type.
shvarz:
Happy birthday, Griz!
Griz:
--- Quote ---why im skeptic? thats my nature, I skeptice anything that doesnt seem possible. 59? comon he is ready to stop working and be like those old ppl who just complain on us young ppl like "in my days we didnt talk to old ppl like you" while we answer "sorry granny but this is my days and we do it, so buzz off". for moder nature he is like trash (dont take it persinal) he going out for and is bieng wiped out just to live room for us young ones. aswell as we are gonna be when we grow old, man I dont wanna be a slow senil old man.
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hehehe ;)
have you never heard the saying:
"age and cunning will overcome foolish youth every time" ...
or something to that effect.
it's true ...
I didn't get to be this old being no fool! :D
I imagine as a survivalist in the bush ...
I'll still outlast most. ;)
"wilderness" is a nonsense term that 'civilized' ... 'city' folks
throw around ... those who are fearfull of what they don't understand.
[as they should be]
it's not at all wild/dangerous to me ...
it's my home.
ma nature has been my guru since day one.
btw ...
a healthy skepticism is a very good thing ...
note: that's a very different thing than being cynical ...
cynicism is a loser's game ...
but it's always good to question ...
esp authority ... any authority ... always.
see for yourself.
Griz:
--- Quote ---They are a great resource of knowledge, wisdom and experince... That all younger constribute from. Even more, they have built the society you live in. They are the reason that you dont live in caves wink.gif, they are the reason that you live at all.
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anyone in the science fields should be familiar with this phrase attributed to Newton ...
"we stand on the shoulders of giants".
we certainly learned that when I was going to school ...
and I still love reading about those amazing physisits like einstein, bohr, heisenberg,
planck, pauli, dirac, herrigel ... well, on and on they go ...
and that isn't even include more moder day heros of mine ...
like feynman and dyson ... all kinds of giants out there. ;)
and I also saw the same thing outside of school ... in real life ...
and learned so much from my grandfathers and grandmothers ...
and also father an mother ...
and I value all they so freely gave.
I've always loved sitting and talking with 'oldtimers' ...
that reminds me of another saying ...
"the more I advance in age ...
the more I discover how much more intellegent my parents become." ;)
sure ... they get set in their ways ...
but I'll take experience any day over 'knowledge'.
knowledge is about a 'head' thing ...
experience has to do with being alive. ;)
Zelos:
reason why we live twice aslong as we should:
1: we are social
2: we take care of out children, if a species do that their life is expanded
3: we have a language and a possibility to learn, that makes it possible to learn from older (luckely not as much as in the past) and then they need to be alive, if they are dead what information can they give?
we dont think that in sweden, persinaly I dont feel like im swedish, im europen
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