Emergent Systems

[Numsgil]

No, you're exploring a thought path and this is as good a place as any.

I just think you may be underestimating the difficulty of having all bot mechanics emerge as a consequence of material interaction.

[Greven]

Ulciscor, they refer to me, not you. The black sheep or whatever it is called in english, for the one who always makes trouble!

[Numsgil]

Okay Num is you think I am combative because I say that I have tried to wake you and PY up from your bot sleep, comeon. We both know that I have made this point a million times before, it's no secret. And it were only meant as a metaphor! Well I might be combative, but your are arrogant. That is what I dont respond well to. We have had this one before too.

Not just that.

When I released 2.4 way back when you were like "WTF is this fast math crap?"  Which was right, it was slower than doing it through VB, but there were more, um, tactful ways to say it.

I could go back through and create a list if you like.  ;)

[Ulciscor]

:( What is with everyone? Either everyone is taking things the wrong way or everyone is being blunt and ruthlessly-to-the-point.

[Numsgil]

Possibly.

Havinig basic design philosophies criticized on multiple fronts at multiple times is frustrating to moi.  Especially when ways to fix it aren't articulated explicitly.

So over time lots of such jabs adds up to overwhelming frustration and I become less amiable than I am ordinarily.

[Greven]

Okay Num is you think I am combative because I say that I have tried to wake you and PY up from your bot sleep, comeon. We both know that I have made this point a million times before, it's no secret. And it were only meant as a metaphor! Well I might be combative, but your are arrogant. That is what I dont respond well to. We have had this one before too.

Not just that.

When I released 2.4 way back when you were like "WTF is this fast math crap?"  Which was right, it was slower than doing it through VB, but there were more, um, tactful ways to say it.

I could go back through and create a list if you like.  ;)

No I did not! I did point about that it had an error rate of x%, if you didnt know that! Then I tested it, and found out that is actually was slower than the normal VB squarroot function, which was in the best interest for DB. I my post a very not at all combative of any sort! I did test it, and gave you the results.

[Ulciscor]

Sorry. This wasn't a criticism of DB, just a suggestion for a possible alternative. This was a sucky section to put the thread in.

[Greven]

Havinig basic design philosophies criticized on multiple fronts at multiple times is frustrating to moi.  Especially when ways to fix it aren't articulated explicitly.

Well for me I mean this as a kind of dialog between all of us! I state something that I think should be changed, trying to give some *basic* thoughts about it.
Nothing speciel, but nobody seems to respond to anyting at the moment!
And all I get is -> THAT IS CRAP! WE DONT WANT IT, WE DONT USE IT -> fuck off Greven... (well maybe not so harsh ...  ;) )

[Numsgil]

No I did not! I did point about that it had an error rate of x%, if you didnt know that! Then I tested it, and found out that is actually was slower than the normal VB squarroot function, which was in the best interest for DB. I my post a very not at all combative of any sort! I did test it, and gave you the results.

You were rather sketpcial from the start.  Not like "is this really necessary" skeptical mind you...

If I'm the only one who has ever read you that way it could just be me.  If so I apologize.  Either way it pushes my buttons.