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« on: November 19, 2005, 06:52:53 PM »
I am looking for the 'defult settings' for 2.4.A and the 'F1 settings' for 2.4.A it turns out that 2.4.A has repopulation of vegs set to 0 when you turn on F1, I think thats a horable idea.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2005, 07:37:47 PM »
Bots, are you a newbie?

Why are you in the newbie forum?

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2005, 07:41:11 PM »
Moved to bugs and fixes, cause that's where the thread is heading, I can feel it.

F1 settings simply don't change whatever the veggy repop values are.  It's not programmed to.

A good F1 setting might be 30 vegs repopulated, with a threshold of 10 and a cooldown of 0.

No default settings exist as of yet, you may need to experiment to get a good setting going.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2005, 08:03:50 PM »
I got bugged down with settings like:

"Is the big blue screen a liquid or a solid bc all I want to do is make accurate F1 settings"

or

"To have friction=3 do I need to set 'zaxis-gravity'=3 or what?"

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2005, 08:21:27 PM »
F1 does (I think) automatically set all physics constants.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2005, 12:47:23 PM »
Nope.

And I found out somthing else too:

When you load a simulation the 'big blue screen' gets unset again...

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2005, 02:26:45 PM »
Look under advanced physics.

The controls in the main GUI are simply ways to set some predefined physics constants.  The actual constants themselves are what I propose F1 is setting more or less correctly.  Maybe not the newer ones (Planet Eaters) but definately the older ones like friction and brownian motion.

The physics do not preclude having settings that are indicative of both solids and fluids.

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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2005, 11:34:34 AM »
Here is what I did:

I set Z axis gravity to 3

and I set The big blue screen is a intermindiate fluid.

Is this ok?

But when I load it from a save sim , big blue screen gets unset again...
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2005, 11:37:45 AM »
Z axis gravity is simply a multiplier for friction effects.  If kinetic and static coefficients for friction are 0, Z axis gravity basically does nothing.

The 'is it a fluid or solid' simply sets wether the resistive force is constant (in the case of friction on a solid surface) or proportional to velocity (Drag in a fluid).  That is, it effects Z axis gravity and the coefficients, and viscosity and density.

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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2005, 11:43:04 AM »
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If kinetic and static coefficients for friction are 0, Z axis gravity basically does nothing.

kinetic  = 3^0.5
static  = 3^0.5
Z axis gravity  = 1

SOLID = metal (or???)

is this good?

DO NOT FORGET: WHEN I LOAD THE SETTINGS AGAIN, I HAVE TO FIX IT ALL THE TIME id.e. SET IT TO SOLID ALL THE TIME...   :tantrum:  :D
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2005, 11:44:39 AM »
Yes, that's fine.

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2005, 11:46:57 AM »
whats the difference between metal or sandpaper? (does the advanced physics change?)

bug alert , bug alert teuteuteuteu
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DO NOT FORGET: WHEN I LOAD THE SETTINGS AGAIN, I HAVE TO FIX IT ALL THE TIME id.e. SET IT TO SOLID ALL THE TIME...
:lecture:

Thank you for your coapiraton (I am still thinking about that dreaded polarity problem)
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2005, 11:49:34 AM »
Let me be very explicit.

All those little drop down menues you see that aren't in the advanced physics panel are simply little shortcuts to effecting the controls you see in the advanced physics panel.

It's the advanced physics panel sliders that are saved and loaded to disk.

If the shortcut dropdown menus don't appear to be set to anything, that doesn't mean the physics constants aren't.

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2005, 11:51:55 AM »
I GOT IT! YES! (sorry for lack of understanding of anything thats not too explisit)

(I will mess arround at home, get the right friction going. thanks for your help)
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