Darwinbots as a Graduate Study

[Endy]

Bots I think Nums was joking. Possibly referring the the MB's currently looking at this. :)

[PurpleYouko]

You should try writing the whole thing in J.
That will screw up everybody  :D

And BTW, Universities in England work a little differently for graduate studies. My Brrother did his masters in the University of Essex and they paid him about 10K per year to do the research. All he had to do was publish, no teaching or anything.
As far as I know, any tuition was taken care of prior to him getting the pay check if it was charged at all.

[Numsgil]

Wow, that would be incredible.  Of course, your brother was an English citizen I bet?  They may or may not try courting oversees arrogant Americans :P

[PurpleYouko]

Yes he was. I don't know how they would feel about Americans but I wouldn't expect it to be too much different in the way it works.

The thing, my experience is that English degrees are a whole lot harder to get than American ones. More difficult exams, deeper science and so on. (It is a big thing to have a Bachelors in England while in the US everybody and their dog seems to have one)
This means that degree qualified people are regarded as a lot more valuable in the workplace (generally speaking). Salaries still suck though :( That's how come I ended up over here.

You should seriously check it out to find out where you stand.

[Numsgil]

*looks at feet*.  Um, Kentucky?  :P

[PurpleYouko]

I know a guy called Bill Tucky. Any relation?

And my Father-in-law is called Ken  <_<

[Numsgil]

Very possibly.  It turns out that geographic locations and people are more closely related than I'd have at first thought.

[Botsareus]

... you know I read the job search; looks like I would need to study .net anyway...

[Numsgil]

I'm seriously considering switching to something like VC++ .net  I love the quick ability to make menu interfaces that VB allows, but I hate not being able to form more complex data structures and classes (VB classes are too slow for most things).

[PurpleYouko]

I started learning C++ a while back. I reeaally don't get on with it but I need to learn it still.

After VB it just seems so ... disorganized.  :huh:

Maybe it will make more sense when it becomes more natural to me.

[Numsgil]

I'd start with C, and leave all the object oriented stuff out.  C is a procedural language just the same as VB, so I think they parallel better.  Then when you're comfortable with C, you can figurte out all the class stuff.

I learned C from the C for Dummies books (which I highly recommend).  It makes it highly entertaining.  Of course, you probably know most of the programming things it'll teach you already, you jsut don't know the syntax for them.

[Botsareus]

The only thing I ever learned in c was iostream.h. Since everyone is teaching this and not something practical, like make an artifisial life simulator I feel like thats the only thing c supports.

[Numsgil]

C kicks ass for procedural programming.  Industry standard for a decade and then some for a reason.

Of course, now everyone does OOP, so poor little ANSI C is left in the cold.  C++ is hardly the best OOP language, although it does just fine.

[Botsareus]

You know, after all these years, I am finally beginning to realize how backwards education systems are in a capitalist world and the reasoning behind it.