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Welwordion:
Well I am new found my way trough some links about artificial life and hell of confused :huh: .
(I already experienced the same thing when finding an a-life game called E-den.)
There is so much to learn and its so difficult to find the right informations.
For example the meaning of > in the syntax and which numbers already have functions and which not.
Ah but I will not lose hope and try to learn the stuff :D
some resume on my design thoughts:
First I thought about the design of a circle surrounding the algae, however I found that this design was already discussed.
My second thought is to orient the devolpment of multiple cell organisms according to the immune system.
Protection against outer influences is always a main drive for forming collective structures and a large amout of our bodies resources are used for this purpose,
Not to mention that the immune system is one of the highest developed sytems in nature(if I remember right the immune and nervous system are somewhat related
in their origin)
As the main outer influences in this simulation are other organism this strategy seems most appropriate for me.
*detailed information after point three
My third idea is implementing a network of multiply cells with everchanging connecting and the ability to ordered cell death.This concept basically stems from the fact that cell death plays a big role in the forming of our body structures.
With the right basic instructions this could lead to complex structures.
(for example creating inside the body where algae could grow)
In the best case this could even to the forming of simple information processing networks.
*immune system thoughts: repair and backup system can be provided by multiple cells, if cells regulary compare certain values that would normally not be changed
and overwrite the value with the most common in his neighbors virus infection can be healed.
One of the most important abilities of the immune system is to identify foreign objetcs and learn according reactions (specific antibodys etc) as you can only fight if you see your enemy,thus certain cells could be used as information storage(memory) and specialize in the idenfication of dangers , such the cell could also learn the success of certain behaviour associated with certain objects.
(the concepts of association is one of the moszt powerful mechansim of information progressing).
A skin is a defensive mechism of the immune system and consist of highly defensive outer cells the question stays however what use inner cells could have?
The most promising scenario for inner cells would be integrated algae or an inner digestion system which however would require a "mouth".
Another scenario is that of inner reproduction which leads to a "hatching".
An immune system could rely on the creation of a certain "pass" or best multiple passes as long the pass does not mutate identification is possible and a biodiversity of passes combined with other tests would guarentee populations that are immune to certain diseases/infiltrators.
shvarz:
Welcome to DBs!
Numsgil:
Have you looked at PY's tutorial yet? It's very good at getting you familiar and comfortable with the syntax.
Some interesting ideas. I think cell death is an interesting one because it's been suggested before. But how do you stop it from being used as a weapon? (As in: once cell causing another to die instantly without the first cell's permision) Should you? I'm not sure if there's a right answer or not.
Multibots are really the future of DB, I just know it. We have to figure out how to make the controls for forming structures elegant enough that people, let alone evolution, can figure it out.
shvarz:
Regulated cell death (apoptosis) is tightly regulated. No cell dies just because some other cells wanted it to. In a way, it is a sacrifice for the common good that cells go through on their own will :)
Numsgil:
Should such a command, if it were added, be instantaneous, or should it maybe slowly wither the bot...
You can currently just shoot out all your energy in a -2 shot. Although there might be some limit on how much energy can be shot out, I don't remember.
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