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PurpleYouko:
You may have hit the nail on the head there Num.

I haven't even thought about specialization in different cells within an MB. My thrust (as you say) is entirely toward speciation and evolution of the species as a whole.
But still each part of a multicellular organism can only do what it was programmed to be able to do at birth. Admittedly, cells mutate as they are born so that each cell is not quite a perfect match for those around it but I don't see that radically changing the way the MB works like going from Herbivore to Carnivore. Both possibilities would need to be initially available from birth and since both are present then neither can be fully specialized in. What you have is an omnivore that can go both ways but not as good as either a truly specialized herbivore or a truly specialized carnivore.

So you are suggesting the ability to switch off chunks of existing DNA in certain cells of an MB right? That is a decent enough plan.
Do you have any easy way for a cell within the MB to know what it is supposed to be though.
Take a tadpole or something similar, consiting of maybe four cells that specialize in feeding at various angles (the head) and a string of muscular cells to wiggle back and forth to provide propulsion. How do we tell each cell what it is supposed to do? That has always been the most difficult part of programming MBs

Your bit system looks really good but I still say the bit pattern needs to be fixed at the birth of the cell and never changed during its life except for random mutations due to radiation sickness or some other environmental conditions

 :D  PY  :D

Numsgil:

--- Quote ---You may have hit the nail on the head there Num.

I haven't even thought about specialization in different cells within an MB. My thrust (as you say) is entirely toward speciation and evolution of the species as a whole.
But still each part of a multicellular organism can only do what it was programmed to be able to do at birth. Admittedly, cells mutate as they are born so that each cell is not quite a perfect match for those around it but I don't see that radically changing the way the MB works like going from Herbivore to Carnivore. Both possibilities would need to be initially available from birth and since both are present then neither can be fully specialized in. What you have is an omnivore that can go both ways but not as good as either a truly specialized herbivore or a truly specialized carnivore.

So you are suggesting the ability to switch off chunks of existing DNA in certain cells of an MB right? That is a decent enough plan.
Do you have any easy way for a cell within the MB to know what it is supposed to be though.
Take a tadpole or something similar, consiting of maybe four cells that specialize in feeding at various angles (the head) and a string of muscular cells to wiggle back and forth to provide propulsion. How do we tell each cell what it is supposed to do? That has always been the most difficult part of programming MBs

Your bit system looks really good but I still say the bit pattern needs to be fixed at the birth of the cell and never changed during its life except for random mutations due to radiation sickness or some other environmental conditions

 :D  PY  :D
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Yeah, the first 'germ cell' of a MB would be the most generalized any final cell can get.  But each of the cells needs a way to remember the original generalized form, so things like tail regeneration is possible.

So a cell should only be able to turn on a mechanism or enzyme it still has the code for.


--- Quote ---Do you have any easy way for a cell within the MB to know what it is supposed to be though.
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I can't even find any information on how real cells do this!


--- Quote ---Your bit system looks really good but I still say the bit pattern needs to be fixed at the birth of the cell and never changed during its life except for random mutations due to radiation sickness or some other environmental conditions
--- End quote ---

I agree.  The bit patterns are what enzymes/mechanisms are actually available to turn on or make, and shouldn't be changed except in extreme cases.

PurpleYouko:
Looks like we have reached a common solution then  B)

I say go with your bit system and give cells the ability to shut down (not delete) sections of DNA that they don't need.

Next thing we need is some way to actually define MB shapes and stuff. That isn't going to be easy

 :D  PY  :D

Numsgil:
It doesn't help that every resource I've found on how human embryos develop might as well say 'magic'.

If we can figure out how real cells learn to differentiate and orient themselves maybe we can apply it to DB.

PurpleYouko:
Where is Shvarz when you need him?

Bloody Hawaii! That's where!

Lucky git!  :ph43r:

 :D  PY  :D

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