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Numsgil:
Animal Minimalis is a good example of a complete and very simple bot.  There aren't any fancy tricks being used, and there's a help file on the wiki that explains whats going on.

If you can understand what Animal Minimalis is doing, then you understand the basics (which is good).

shvarz:
Saving routines got broken at some point and are on the "to fix" list.
But you don't have to save each bot individually - make a "snapshot", then use PY's Excel snapshot analysis tool to find the most frequent variants.

PurpleYouko:
The snapshot routine is very useful and is one of the areas where I am focusing my attention right now.
Just look at the toolbar and you will see a button that looks like a camera.
Click it and all robot DNAs (for presently existing robots) will be saved into a text file.
If you download my Excel Snapshot utility from the "old FTP server", you can open the file, sort the robots by their DNA and even generate new usable robot files from the DNA stored in the file.
More functionality is planned for the utility so watch for upgrades to it.

Saving the whole sim is unfortunately well and truly broken right now.
The reason for this is that we keep changing robot structures in the code and each time we do so it upsets the numerical order of the save file.
We have recently added a load of new object oriented variables to the robot definitions and will shortly be adding several more including changes to the array "mutarray" which holds the mutations codes for each robot.

It would be kind of pointless to fix the save feature right now because the first change we make to the robot definitions will just kill it again.
Once we settle on a structure then the file save routines will be fixed.

Stryke:
Oh, awesome, thanks for the info. I have no need to save the sim now that I can use the snapshot feature. That helps alot; and works too :) . Now I'm gonna search the net and see if I can find a freeware variant of excel, cause I don't have it and can't pay for it.

PurpleYouko:
I may be able to do something about that later.

I actually have a CD of office 2002 at home which has an "official" open license from Microsoft. I may be able to post a zip of it to either Darwinbots.com or the old FTP site.

I will let you know later  ;)

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