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Offline Greven

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« on: May 04, 2005, 11:38:01 AM »
The forum seems rather dead the last week or so?

Are everyone dead?

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Offline shvarz

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2005, 11:52:53 AM »
No, we are here.  But there is not much to discuss - the discussions of new features are the most active ones.  The "bugs" are the next big thing.  With Nums and PY taking a break from coding it has been slow.  I am actually glad it sort of settled down.  I can finally run long sims without downloading an updated version every couple of days :)

Just start discussions and people will come.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2005, 01:43:49 PM »
Its exam time for moi. Revision is taking far to much time away from DB time, I should get my priorities right. :)

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 02:34:14 PM »
I have been really busy for weeks.
People just won't stop sending me research projects that need analysis.

 :shoot:  Stupid researchers  :(
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2005, 03:44:52 PM »
Actually, I'm getting geared up to post the DB home page that my sister put together.  Just have to find some time...

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2005, 05:00:13 PM »
And I have lost all hope with AI and simply playing vedio games , eheheh

But If someone has any good posts I'll be glad to reply.

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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2005, 03:09:12 AM »
Dead? Yes. Dead-on dead. The Big Sleep. The end-all of all end-alls.

My sims are dead. My DBII is dead. At least until the next release.

So now I spend my precious little play time explaining time dilation and crossing swords with creationists.

Those of you in the struggle against stupidity need to aware that there is a new point of attack being used by the Intelligent Design crowd. Not really "new" but more "look here we're mainstream" kinda new. Seems Stephen Meyer had a paper published by the Biological Society of Washington in its peer reviewed Proceedings. If you're not familiar with brother Meyer he is one of the most avid advocates of Intelligent Design.

So now the Cretinis...er...creationists are touting their acceptance by mainstream science. Therefore science sees value in their hypothesis. Therefore evolution is dead and that only leaves god. And etcetera like that.

Except, it seems Meyer's paper was published in error. Somehow the screening council never saw the submission, the wag was never submitted to peer review, and the Editors are falling all over themselves trying to distance themselves from the deed, their web site is full of long apologies, recriminations are flying and heads are rolling. No one is saying if any $$ changed hands to affect the conspiracy.

In the meantime, Meyer and cohorts are losing no time in spreading the news, reprints of the paper with PBSW's imprimatur, web links to Meyer's CSC Discovery site with PBSW's imprimatur, all showing how now Intelligent Design has been published in a mainstream, peer-reviewed, real-life prestigious science-type publication.  Creationists are beside themselves with blissful religious joy.

As if this job wasn't tough enough.

Love and kisses to Num's dream girl, even with the clothes on.

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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2005, 12:33:43 PM »
What do you mean your DBII is dead?  How can it be dead?
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2005, 01:30:08 PM »
I think he's waiting for the sexual repro to be fixed.

See, all those hints weren't falling on deaf ears.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2005, 08:35:20 AM »
I've been on a holiday last week... had nothing but rain ;)

no, just kidding. I had nice weather allround, and managed to.. er... get bored a whole lot :lol:

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2005, 08:48:46 AM »
I think there havent been anything good to reply on.
When I have the eclipse cannon under my control there is nothing that can stop me from ruling the world. And I wont stop there. I will never stop conquering worlds through the universe. All the worlds in the universe will belong to me. All the species in on them will be my slaves. THE ENIRE UNIVERSE WILL BELONG TO ME AND EVERYTHING IN IT :evil: AND THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE OF you CAN DO TO STOP ME. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2005, 10:21:21 AM »
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I think he's waiting for the sexual repro to be fixed.

See, all those hints weren't falling on deaf ears.


Actually, I've coded around the sexrepro issue using memlocs.  My issue now is that I cannot get to the memvals. After a few million cycles of sexual selection (simulated) the sex trait values would have moved (maybe) except those values are in the bot memory which we do not [hint] have access to [end hint] at the present time. A memval text file, a memval textfile, my kingdom for a memval text file.

Trivia note: Erwin Schrodinger was so disgusted by the results he was seeing in his equations that he devised his famous cat paradox to show just how rediculous his results were. He did this hoping he or others would help find the error that obviously had to be in the equations. Poor pussy's been suspended in uncertainty ever since.

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« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2005, 05:56:12 PM »
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those values are in the bot memory which we do not [hint] have access to [end hint] at the present time.

Could you elaborate on this.

As far as I know (and I programmed it) we have access to all the memory values using memloc and memval.

If your robot have mutated such that they use a different location then how do you propose fixing this?
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« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2005, 07:19:07 PM »
I think he means the snapshot doesn't capture memory locations.

Which we've discussed before, if you remember.

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2005, 03:17:13 PM »
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those values are in the bot memory which we do not [hint] have access to [end hint] at the present time.



Could you elaborate on this.

As far as I know (and I programmed it) we have access to all the memory values using memloc and memval.


Sorry, PY for having gotten confusing on this. Nums is right. The sextrait values in my sims are in bot memory locations. My way of getting around .sexrepro.  After x,000,000 cycles I want to see how these values have spread, congregated, moved. Unfortunately, snapshot does not save the memory values in the text file so I have no way to see and compare, say memloc #981 #982 #68, values over some 1000 bots.

There was some discussion of a 'mem snapshot' routine that would create a text file of all bots' memory with options to record certain locations only.  This would be wonderful.  Until such is available, and not being a gamer interested in making combat bots (combots?), I've taken DBII as far as I can.

Lurking Patiently,

-P