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bacillus:

--- Quote from: Peter ---Bacillus leagues don't seem completely right. O.o
F3 missed a few bots, and the order of it was off.
I think ikke's links are closer to the truth.

@panda, I would start finding a quick way to get all bots saved to disk, then some way to get it sorted.
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Me producing off results seems the most likely scenario...

Numsgil:

--- Quote from: Panda ---What would happen to any of the ones which are incorectly named on the forum, without all of the information about them.
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Ideally we'd get a list of them and someone would go in manually and edit their details to match our filter.


--- Quote ---I would not be sure on how to create a web crawler that would search the forum for the bots and tell where the ones to be moved to but I could try.

EDIT> Where would I start?
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I played around a little bit with WebSphinx last night.  It's a hideous GUI and it hung during the process, and I couldn't get it to follow the links the way I wanted, but that seems to be the closest program to what we'd need that I've found.

Basically, you'd want to go to the lo fi version of the forum (see the bottom of any page on the forum) and open up a relevant bestiary post and examine the raw html.  Then figure out a filter of some sort that would reliably get either the bot that's been uploaded, if there is one, and/or extract out the bot code from the post.  The hard part is building a good filter here.

Once you have your filter, you just save the bots out to disk and give them the same file name as the post on the bestiary.

But I haven't been able to find a really good web crawler with an intuitive GUI yet, so that would be the first step.

Moonfisher:
There's also the issue of updating the league rules for F2... I think F1 is straight forward with no rules, and F3 seems ok the way it is, but with the curent listed rules Saber and Lovebot would be allowed in the F2 league.
I think the only thing I got the impression anyone agreed on was baning sexrepro from F2 because it was more powerfull than a virus... But even without sexrepro it's actualy allowed to draw energy through a tie that you didn't create yourself, which means you could just use venom or mem shots to make the oponent tie to you. But there's also the general issue of tie use in F2, and instant kill bugs like .shootval.

So I would start out running the other leagues... but I'm not sure we'll ever reach a conclusion on that matter, we've tried before and the conversation went in all sorts of directions but never got anywhere...

(Also you should be warned, some fights will take a looong time and some bots will stay even in score for ages before finding a winner. Don't stare at it too long, you'll go blind.)

Peter:
"No tie feeding allowed! You may not fire a tie then feed through it. You may not feed through a tie that has been fired at you! You may not share enrgy through a tie with an adversary or a veggie but you may share with your own species.
You MAY cause an adversary robot to give you his energy through HIS tie (Commonly known as Leaching) by means of reprogramming his DNA with shots, ties, poison or venom."


From the original rules.

Moonfisher:
Yeah, but then you can just fire a venom shot that makes the oponent shoot out ties, push 1000 into .tmemval and shoot mem shots with -1 or -6 into .memloc (And maybe reverse it for half your bots, to increase odds of everything getting accomplished through the ties)...
It's a litle more tricky than just tieing yourself, but a lot of strong F1 tie feeders could easily be fitted for that, Locust would be easy to adjust, but you could even make a modified version of fruitflies that would qualify for F2...

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