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Anybody using IM now?
Numsgil:
--- Quote from: Testlund ---Well, I tried jknilinux suggestion by underclocking my graphics card which is what my noisy side panel fan was cooling, with the ATI Tray Tool utility.
It didn't help one bit! Even lowering the speed of both core and mem to minimum didn't even lower the temp 0.1 degrees!
--- End quote ---
Unless your graphics card is being stressed by a game or benchmark or whatever it's running at something like 1% of it's maximum theoretical output. It's smart enough to not draw extra power if it doesn't need it, so you won't see a difference when underclocking until you run a game or benchmark. Underclocking is more for throttling how fast the card goes during high load situations. Which Darwinbots doesn't really cause at all. And normal desktop use doesn't cause either.
If your fan is really noisy it might be old or your drivers aren't set up to lower the fan RPMs when the system doesn't need the extra cooling. You might google your system and see if others have complained about fan noise, see if there's a replacement fan if it's old (usually go for about $20-$30), or if there are "fan drivers" floating around somewhere. On my Dell laptop, for instance, there was a utility I downloaded that let me hard set the fan speeds. When they're on low you can't even hear them but when they're on high it's like a vacuum cleaner.
--- Quote ---Still I tried to remove the side panel/fan just to see how much the temp would go up. The default was around 37 degrees celsius and it slowly went up to 68. It rises so slowly so I don't know if it will continue to rise above what the display can show eventually, which is above 79 degrees.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, you probably need a fan of some sort. Is it the sort that attaches to the side panel itself? Is it associated with the cpu or gpu specifically or is it just there to move air through the case in general?
--- Quote ---I've seen videos on Youtube about oil cooling. You need fans to keep circuling the oil and I bet it will be hard on the fans. It must be difficult to get effective flow over the hardware.
Water cooling with tubes must be much more effective.
--- End quote ---
I'll be surprised if that ever becomes the norm, though.
Testlund:
--- Quote from: Numsgil ---Underclocking is more for throttling how fast the card goes during high load situations. Which Darwinbots doesn't really cause at all. And normal desktop use doesn't cause either.
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I didn't think that far. I was actually doing the test while running a sim. Usually the temp goes up a few degrees when running DB but with minimum clock settings the temp stayed the same. With more intense graphic application the difference could be greater as you say. 37 is my idle mode temp.
jknilinux:
btw about IM... Which one is most populous? Is it quickdraw?
Numsgil:
For the longest time it was fruitfly and seasnake, but it was hard to tell which was which because both used viruses to reproduce, so you might have a colony of "sea snake" that were actually fruitfly viruses, and vice versa.
I didn't think any copies of them survived, but if Testlund saw some fruitfly recently I guess I stand corrected.
Moonfisher:
The fruitflies on IM where spread by the flyfruit alge, so there where no actual fruitflies on IM. But I think there was a substantial amount of infected seasnakes wich had mutated and no longer killed regular alge (Leeched on them instead and entered kill mode if someone attacked the alge).
This is one of the seasnakes I got in from one of EricL's sims (Think he had 3 running on IM)
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After the flyfruit had spread to all the sims I no longer saw any of the original seasnakes pop in. And EricL locked his sims to prevent viruses infecing alge at some point, which is probably also why the infected bots evolved into leeching and defending the alge instead of eating everything in sight. But the high amount of bots also slowed down the sims a lot, so I don't think they ran that long. I was going for the 9000 bots on IM challenge, but I only saw seasnakes reach 7000 :'(
(Not sure if other bots on IM where infected aswell, I think I saw one called 000 which had been infected, but there weren't that many of them, and there where no mutations and only the dna from the fruitfly virus, so it could just as well have been someone running a test of some sorts, maybe making alge resistant to fruitflies or something).
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