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trimalchio:
I'm still not sure what's going on with this community here, but this program is very interesting. If you're making Darwinbots 3, that's fine, but it doesn't seem to be moving very fast. I have many ideas about a similar evo/sim but it goes in a very different direction than what you seem to be visualizing. In fact, what I have in mind would be very different from what Darwinbots is or will be. I should probably look harder to see if anyone else is doing what I'm thinking, but it doesn't seem to be out there. Anyway, I have experience in C++/Java, I could learn C#, I'd rather not learn VB, and I am interested in making my own program, probably in Java for various reasons. I've never worked on a team programming project before, and I'll probably lose interest in a week or two. If there is actually anyone here, I would appreciate talking about whether I would help this project or do my own thing. I think that my ideas are strong and practical, and could eventually become a useful program. Anyway, I'd just like to know if there's actually anyone here, since there seem to be about six posts in the last month. I suppose I should get started. I could explain what I'm thinking if anyone is interested.

Numsgil:
I'm here at least   The forum kind of goes through spurts of busy and dead.

Progress on DB3 is indeed slow.  I haven't done anything with it in about a month (taking a vacation sort of), but when I left off I was trying to figure out a good way to build some data centric unit test functionality into the unit testing framework I built.  Nevermind if that doesn't make any sense

If you think it's unlikely that you'll actually finish anything you start, it would make more sense working on DB3 with me since at least then you'll have accomplished something worthwhile.  Also fee free to explain what you were thinking.  I won't make any guarantees about anything, but if nothing else I can give you some feedback.

If you want to work on DB3, I can probably find something interesting for you to work on (Incedentally if you know Java you'll find C# very easy to pick up.  I found it easy to move to Java from C#).  What sort of things do you have experience with programming?  For instance, one thing that needs doing is moving some unit tests I wrote using this one library to using this other library I wrote just for DB.  It isn't all that sexy a task, but it would be a finite task and a good way to kind of figure out the code that exists right now.

Testlund:
The whole a-life scene is the slowest software technology of all. DB is the most advanced one which have gotten new versions released quite often.
I guess the reason why a-life is such a slow business is probably because it's very difficult to program with little economic reward. So programmers tend to play around with it on their free time. Is that a right assumption, Nums?

Numsgil:
Yeah, that seems to be the case.  Occasionally there are commercial alife games (Creatures and Darwin Pond come to mind), but they're lucky to break even on development costs.  It requires a level of patience most users just don't have, so its commercial appeal is really limited.

On the technical side it's at least as complex as any other game.  Sometimes more so because it has to be pretty stable and bug free (if Civ4 or Fallout 3 crashed every 12 hours, it wouldn't be the end of the world.  If your alife sim crashed every 12 hours, it would literally be the end of the world )

Testlund:

--- Quote from: Numsgil ---Sometimes more so because it has to be pretty stable and bug free (if Civ4 or Fallout 3 crashed every 12 hours, it wouldn't be the end of the world.  If your alife sim crashed every 12 hours, it would literally be the end of the world )
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Yeah, definitely! I never thought of it that way.  

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