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jknilinux:
Ta-183-
But don't we want to emulate life as closely as possible, especially if doing so encourages complexity? The purpose of DB is to simulate evolution, not to be a programmer's game. And, from an evolutionary point of view, it is a much better idea to have only one sense per cell.

Numsgil-
That's part of the problem. Giving bots so many senses destroys what is perhaps the biggest advantage of being multicellular- that you can use more than one sense. If a single bot has all the senses that a MB has, then why should it become a MB?
IMO, the cambrian explosion might have occurred because of tissue specialization, which is because of having different abilities for different cells, thereby giving the MB a big advantage over bacteria with only the sense of smell.

Peter:

--- Quote from: jknilinux ---Hi everyone, how's thanksgiving been?
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Not, how are you celebrating sinterklaas?


--- Quote from: jknilinux ---Ta-183-
But don't we want to emulate life as closely as possible, especially if doing so encourages complexity? The purpose of DB is to simulate evolution, not to be a programmer's game. And, from an evolutionary point of view, it is a much better idea to have only one sense per cell.
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There are single cells that can use muliple sensors. I understand you stand for multibots. But for emulating real live this doesn't do it.


--- Quote ---Numsgil-
That's part of the problem. Giving bots so many senses destroys what is perhaps the biggest advantage of being multicellular- that you can use more than one sense. If a single bot has all the senses that a MB has, then why should it become a MB?
IMO, the cambrian explosion might have occurred because of tissue specialization, which is because of having different abilities for different cells, thereby giving the MB a big advantage over bacteria with only the sense of smell.
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I'm not even completely sure what advantage we then have over bacteria. But overall I think it is more complex then you want to state.

Numsgil:
I don't think improved sensing ability was the reason for multicellularity.  The first multicelled organisms weren't a whole lot more than a lots of cells sticking to each other.  Speciation comes later.  And on the microscopic level I think you'd be surprised how many senses a single bacteria has.

jknilinux:
Peter-

Oh, right- you're from switzerland. Well, hope stuff's been going well anyway.
Me? Not doing much yet- I don't like how much companies commercialize the holidays these days.

Do you have any ideas on what the advantage we have over bacteria might be?


peter/numsgil-

Yes, bacteria do have sensors for a few ambient things, like temperature and "taste". However, as far as I know, no bacteria and very few protists can sense light, and if they do, like euglena, then they only have very low resolution vision, like 1x1 greyscale.


Numsgil-

By multicellular, I meant with tissue specialization. So, they would have specialized tissues for taste and specialized sensors for light that would be far better than the general-purpose senses of bacteria.

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