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k-selected DB species

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ikke:

--- Quote from: jknilinux ---So, you mean your zerobots would, on average, live a very long time, have lots of nrg, few young, and actually cared for them? I'd love to see a sim!
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I think you are overstating the implication of the term k selection. None of that is a prerequisite.


--- Quote ---K-selection

In stable or predictable environments K-selection predominates, as the ability to compete successfully for limited resources is crucial, and populations of K-selected organisms typically are very constant and close to the maximum that the environment can bear.
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is definitely applicable

--- Quote ---Traits that are thought to be characteristic of K-selection include:
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this does not mean that the following are essential prerequisites for k selection

jknilinux:
Oh- OK. Well, in that case, I meant "why do we never evolve a bot that has the characteristics we commonly see in K-selected species?"

ikke:

--- Quote from: jknilinux ---Oh- OK. Well, in that case, I meant "why do we never evolve a bot that has the characteristics we commonly see in K-selected species?"
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- Would we recognise them if we saw them?
- is the environment complex enough to warrant teaching and learning?
- is growing big and old a viable let alone favourable strategy withing our stable environment?

The rules define the outcome. I think the IB league discussion is a good example of the issues faced. here we have intelligent beings trying to design a system where designed, complex behaviour has to outcompete ''simple'' r type strategies. Given the discussion this is no simple task.
Here we are discussing not the next step but a mile further down the road: having this behaviour emerge spontaneous.

jknilinux:
Well, once we make the IBBL, we should be able to run an evosim under those conditions and make complex behavior emerge spontaneously, right?

Anyway,
- For one thing, they'd be physically huge, so we should have noticed them by now. In fact, maybe we have- big berthas sort of are a K-selected species, because they have a small population and are very well suited to their environment, so they become huge and kill everything else...

- Maybe not teaching and learning, since there isn't a single bot in existence that learns during it's lifetime, but at least the basic attributes of a K-selected species.

- It should be a preferable strategy in such an environment. R-selection dominates mainly in new or unstable environments.

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