The F3 league.

[Moonfisher]

I started running some bots that qualified for F3... I think Animal minimalis qualifies aswell and if there are others feel free to mention them. Preferably F2 bots and such, there's already some evo bases in there...

There's no button for it, but just do everything as you would for F1 or F2 but write F3 in the field when starting the league (where it would normaly say F1 or F2).
You may want to start off running F1 or F2 to make sure all the settings are right (I'm not sure if it adjusts all the settings when running a league this way).
Still plenty of spots left, and I think there's some bots in the starting gate that would qualify, so I'll try to get more in there as I go along... anyone else is free to run bots and update the league if they want.

Added a lot of quick bots, it's the same bot with one or two genes added for each new bot... funny thing is when I ran them some of the simpler ones made it past Roto1 where some of the more advanced ones didn't
So the order is messed up, but I don't want to change that, it shows that smarter isn't always better
Still each bot shows an important step by taking the simples aproach I could think of.
(The original order was: Shoot, Reproduce, Body, Aim, Chase, Conspec, Boost, Eye, Defence)
(Currently running Roto2, but it's stuck fighting Body and the fight is going realy slow, but I think Body will win again)

Here's the current F3 league results (Still 14 empty slots):
1 - Big (F3) (Moonfisher) 19-10-08
2 - SWARM 2.0 (F3)(Elite)-10.03.07
3 - Defence
4 - Eye
5 - Spyrus (F3)(abyaly) 18-10-08
6 - Boost
7 - Aim
8 - Body
9 - Roto (F3) (Bacillus) 20-10-08
10- Conspec
11- Chase
12- Reproduce
13- C_Filans
14- C_Circumgirans
15- Shoot
16- C_Ancestralis

[Numsgil]

I'll make a subforum for F3 tonight.  Do you want to be the one to run F3?

[ikke]

I'm trying to run the league.
1) I have made a leagues folder
2) Copied F3leaguestable.txt to the root of the leagues folder
3) unzipped the F3league folder to the leagues folder
4) started DB (2.44)
5)in the species tab added algea minimalis as veggie
6) in the species tab added my bot
7) in the restart and leagues tab checked use F1 contest conditions
checked run league on startup
9) entered F3 as league name
10) start new

The league starts running my bot against C-ancestralis. My bot wins. I see my bot climbing up to position 16 and I see Shoot as the competition. I get the error :''You have only selected one species for combat. Formula one disabled.'' What is my mistake?

[Moonfisher]

Yeah sure I can try to run F3 if I can keep up  

And I had the same problem as you mentioned, in my case the program had deleted Shoot from the league folder allong with several other bots for no apparent reason.
So I would check that all the bots in the league are still inside the league folder, if not just pull them out of the .rar again...
Otherwise it could possibly help to copy the bots in the league folder to your Robots folder... but not sure if this helps...
But try to check the league folder to see if the bots are still in it... I have no idea why they would get deleted, but they did...
One other problem could be using 2.44, I know I couldn't run F1 or F2 in DB 2.44, so I'm still using 2.43.1L... (I'll upload DB 2.43.1L in case someone needs it)
I generaly recomend using 2.43.1L untill Eric release the next drop.

Also I'll list the rules to make sure I didn't miss something :
-No viruses
-No ties
-No memmory shots (Only -1 and -6 shots)
-No venom
-No slime
-No poison
-No shell
-No use of .delgene
-No sexrepro


Do we allow -4 shots in F3 ?

[Moonfisher]

League update :
1 - Big (F3) (Moonfisher) 19-10-08
2 - SWARM 2.0 (F3)(Elite)-10.03.07
3 - Defence
4 - Eye
5 - Roto2 (F3) (Bacillus) 21-10-08
6 - Spyrus (F3)(abyaly) 18-10-08
7 - Boost
8 - Conspec
9 - Chase
10- Aim
11- Body
12- Reproduce
13- C_Filans
14- C_Circumgirans
15- Shoot
16- C_Ancestralis

(The tutorial bots now line up in the right order aswell)

[Endy]

Waste should be okay, its not too easy to use as a weapon. All another bot has to do is shoot it off again.

[abyaly]

Also, if an F3 bot wants to be F2 eligible, I'd say it can place those things in a gene that cannot possibly go off in F3. For example: SWARM 2.0 uses *.mkvirus delgene as a viral defense. Since there are no viruses in F3, it will never delgene in F3.

[Peter]

Virus for F2 is a bad example. But further, that seemed logical to me.

[Moonfisher]

The new alpha made 8th place :

1 - Big (F3) (Moonfisher) 19-10-08
2 - SWARM 2.0 (F3)(Elite)-10.03.07
3 - Defence
4 - Eye
5 - Roto2 (F3) (Bacillus) 21-10-08
6 - Spyrus (F3)(abyaly) 18-10-08
7 - Boost
8 - Alpha v1.1.5 (F3) (d-EVO) 23-10-2008
9 - Conspec
10- Chase
11- Aim
12- Body
13- Reproduce
14- C_Filans
15- C_Circumgirans
16- Shoot
17- C_Ancestralis

[bacillus]

What's the point of disallowing slime if it doesn't get used anyway?

[Moonfisher]

I think the point is to keep the F3 league as simple as possible, and it would only be needed in F2 anyway (And if the F2 rules are changed then slime may not even be needed outside F1).

[ikke]

I tried to post this in the F3 subforum but I didn't have the rights. Something to fix?

Standings per 2/12 2008:
#F3
1 - Gimmick2.0(F3)(Ikke)29.19.2008
2 - Bouncer(F3) 2-11-2008 (peter)
3 - Big (F3) (Moonfisher) 19-10-08
4 - SWARM 2.0 (F3)(Elite)-10.03.07
5 - Defence
6 - Eye
7 - Spyrus (F3)(abyaly) 18-10-08
8 - alpha 2.7(F3) 31-11-2008 (d-Evo)
9 - Boost
10- Aim
11- Body
12- Roto (F3) (Bacillus) 20-10-08
13- Beholder_F3___Welwordion__28_10_08
14- Conspec
15- Chase
16- Reproduce
17- C_Filans
18- C_Circumgirans
19- Shoot
20- C_Ancestralis
21- EMPTY
22- EMPTY
23- EMPTY
24- EMPTY
25- EMPTY
26- EMPTY
27- EMPTY
28- EMPTY
29- EMPTY
30- EMPTY

[Numsgil]

Yeah, I need to fix permissions.  Something on my list