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New F1 bot standings
bacillus:
Actually, when you look through, there's quite a few that can be ignored because they're veggies (correct me if I'm wrong). Besides, I had some time spare
bacillus:
Okay, I just updated the league standings inclusive with the newer versions; I won't actually make any new posts, just update the current one.
I think there should be a standard when entering updated bots. For example, Etch MK II could be copied twenty times, each time making a minimal change it, then post them as different versions and take over the league. At the moment I'm going on trust which is good enough, but I thought I should raise the point anyway.
Numsgil:
It's a valid issue. Especially since a one line tweak might make a bot behave totally different. I'd give these "bill of rights and responsibilities" for leagues:
1. When a new bot is submitted, the author pledges that it represents a "significant" departure from any other bot currently in the league. Honor system here, until the first time we have bad abuse and then we'll try to invent something better. "Significant" is judged by the community and bot author.
2. A bot author can pull a bot of theirs from any league they want for any reason they want
3. A bot in a league already can always challenge the bot above it in the league in case program changes make it stronger than that bot now. Ideally leagues a re-run when new versions of the program are released, so this would happen automatically.
4. If an author updates a bot, it most invoke points #2 by removing the bot from the league and resubmitting it. This way you can't change you bot to get it past a hard bot then change it back.
5. Unless the author objects, the bot will be run in all eligible leagues. Meaning that all F2 bots should get run in F1 as well.
Peter:
--- Quote ---Okay, I just updated the league standings inclusive with the newer versions; I won't actually make any new posts, just update the current one.
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Alright, and I see excelibur is going to average, did something break in that bot or something.
--- Quote ---I think there should be a standard when entering updated bots. For example, Etch MK II could be copied twenty times, each time making a minimal change it, then post them as different versions and take over the league. At the moment I'm going on trust which is good enough, but I thought I should raise the point anyway
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Not sure whatever you mean.
It sounds eather like the mutation-bot-league botsareus made up.
Or something like you want bots to be posted multiple times and run them all.
Sorry but I don't like the idea of a one-bot league, beacouse that way you would get.
--- Quote ---winner 1
winner 0,9b
winner 0,9a
winner 0,8
winner 0,7
.....
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Ok my opinion about those updated bots. Where as a example you can take the fruit flies. There really was a minimal change.
First: You throw the earlier change out. Then the next bot challenge the league from the start.
Second: If you know the bot is going to be updated soon, ignore it. Pretty useless to let a league run then.
Peter:
--- Quote from: Numsgil ---It's a valid issue. Especially since a one line tweak might make a bot behave totally different. I'd give these "bill of rights and responsibilities" for leagues:
1. When a new bot is submitted, the author pledges that it represents a "significant" departure from any other bot currently in the league. Honor system here, until the first time we have bad abuse and then we'll try to invent something better. "Significant" is judged by the community and bot author.
2. A bot author can pull a bot of theirs from any league they want for any reason they want
3. A bot in a league already can always challenge the bot above it in the league in case program changes make it stronger than that bot now. Ideally leagues a re-run when new versions of the program are released, so this would happen automatically.
4. If an author updates a bot, it most invoke points #2 by removing the bot from the league and resubmitting it. This way you can't change you bot to get it past a hard bot then change it back.
5. Unless the author objects, the bot will be run in all eligible leagues. Meaning that all F2 bots should get run in F1 as well.
--- End quote ---
This seem pretty straighforward and logic. Isn't his something to put into league-rules.
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