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Continuance of the INfinity Proposal
Numsgil:
--- Quote from: gymsum ---No thanks.
Trying to evade raptors seems extremely irrelevant to the topic.
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Now if you're wanting to discuss theoretical physics, I'm all yours, but I simply have no time to imagine a raptor, its liek trying to imagine a moose that stands 20 feet from hoof to ear. Its not really practical because it doesnt occur in nature anymore, however the entroyp it created continues to this day, in the form of oil and global warming.
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You're just mad because you got it wrong. Twice. And we'll see how useless it is when scientists take their T Rex DNA and clone it ala Jurassic Park. Sure raptors and rex's are different animals, but I think the principle is the same.
Also, dinosaurs (and mooses, since you mention it (moosi?)) didn't create oil and global warming. You should check out the straight dope.
--- Quote ---Also I have thought more about the time lapse purpose of the equation. If you recall the 4d sphere. Well imagine that all knowledge is contained within the dimension its percieved through, that means that things like location and distances are 3d. But as each progression of events unfolds, the amount of amplification in entropy remains to be the same if you consider that entropy might be conserved, as a relative way to allow for the Universe to experience varrying levels of Entropy, not saying it has a limit, but that entropy is relative to everything in the universe. So as each event happens, the amount of information is 4d in nature, since entropy follows an inverse squares law should you graph it as a wave, as time continues the amount of entropy from something (previous) remains constant. That is to say the butterfly flapping its wings once to start a hurricane, could die moments later but the entropy of the wing has already continued in the hurricane. So all knowledge of the future can be found by taking the Universal time stamp of the future, subtracting the opresent time stamp from it, and then raising it to the power of Time. This means that no matter what action is taken, the entropy of that action continues indefinitely (cause and effects can be described in this way, as the past cannot be changed).
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All my previous comments (can't raise things to the power of time!) apply here.
--- Quote ---Regardless of what some DB discussion bot makers think of my ideas, this discussion was meant for understanding knowledge on a universal scale.
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You see, you're not the first person to think of "information" in strictly abstract, relative terms. Some pretty smart guys got together and came up with information theory. Information can be encoded as a string of bits. So all information is inherently one dimensional, if you want to look at it that way.
abyaly:
Raptors are always relevant.
The word incalculable isn't all that out there, nums. Have you heard of the busy beaver function?
Numsgil:
That's usually called uncomputable, though, right? Not quite the same thing either, though it might be closer to what he had in mind originally.
Also, I'm going to amend my mention of raising things to the power of time. Raising things to the positive power of time is silly, but raising them to the negative power of time shows up a lot in the equations for damped springs. The rational that raising things to the power of time is necessary because they're geometric doesn't make sense either. Geometric series are easily calculable.
abyaly:
Yeah, but the words calculable and computable are rather close relatives.
Also, exponential and logistic growth curves use positive time exponents.
Numsgil:
Heh, right again. I need to be more careful when I declare things to be absurd, I've used e^-kt and e^kt often enough, so I have no excuse.
Though I would still say that exponential growth is a local phenomenon in time. That is, not something one would expect to exist over the long term, where an S curve is more common.
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