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Moonfisher:
Sweet
I also have a new F1 contester called Fruit Flies... it beats Etch II
It's 6 very simple genes, nothing advanced about it, but it beats everything I tryed it on so far
It can take a while to finish off some oponents though, it's a very weak fighter but it makes up for it in numbers.
I had to stop reproduction at 1000 bots or the fights always end up freezing...
It could probably have some more attack options in order to finish the fights a lot faster, but I like the way a few small simple genes can do so much damage...

Peter:

--- Quote from: Commander Keen ---That's the F1 results.

I'm doing the F2 league at the moment.

You'll be pleased to hear that currently Spinner is on top of the F2 league
--- End quote ---
Uhm, wait spinner. Isn't that a F1-bot. As a minor weapon it does use tie attacks and suck the enemy empty with it. I don't know if it uses any other powerful F1-stuff. Atleast the spinner in my bot-directory is doing this.

Overall I think the tie-sucking is in the case of spinner not a definite powerful weapon, against some bots I could see the extra power. As not all F2-bots have sucking defence.

I looked up the spinner from the beastery, if this is the same you used, it is sucking nrg.
After looking inside the genes I see the problem.

This gene carries under here carries the actual nrg-sucking, in further dna, .deltie is set at zero and ties are formed to irritate enemys. Those ties are used here to suck the enemy.

I would say lookup this gene and delete it, then the bot is F2-worthy.
I gues your earlier results with it are also a little vilty.

--- Quote ---'Not sure counter leeching is legal for F2
'If it isn't, then use the other tie value...
cond
*.numties 0 >
*.robage 1 >
*.tiepres 0 >
start
*.tiepres .tienum store
.tieval .tieloc store
31000 .tieval store
'0 .tieval store '-- This can be safer, helps against EtchII, but only delay's the inevitable.
*.tiepres .deltie store
stop
--- End quote ---

And further, have you checked every bot if it is really an F2-bot. Or did you just run every bot that had an F2 tag on it. There could be more F2-bots that really are F1-bots.

Numsgil:
I don't think he should have to double check that a bot that says it's F2 is F2. That would be a huge pain. But if it's F1 pretending to be F2 that's not fair. Did Moonfisher post recently? Maybe we can just ask him.

Peter:

--- Quote from: Numsgil ---I don't think he should have to double check that a bot that says it's F2 is F2. That would be a huge pain. But if it's F1 pretending to be F2 that's not fair. Did Moonfisher post recently? Maybe we can just ask him.
--- End quote ---
Chances are this was accidentily. At least he then forgot the check the bot properly. As far I see only one gene has to be removed to get in F2.

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