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Offline abyaly

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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2008, 10:16:22 PM »
And no agressive use of ties? And I suppose rape would also be forbidden.
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2008, 12:30:37 AM »
No ties at all.  No sex.

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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2008, 12:57:34 AM »
I'm liking F3. None of those annoying instakills...

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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2008, 08:03:10 AM »
Ok, clarification: no ties at all means no using the trick to get rid of the birth tie in 2 cycles, right?
Also, I didn't see a verdict regarding powered up shots.
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2008, 08:36:55 AM »
I don't see the harm in allowing people to delete ties, and I don't think you need to form a new tie to get rid of the birth tie anymore...
Deleting incoming ties won't affect the F3 leagues but it'll make it easyer for F3 bots to comete in F2...

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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2008, 01:54:41 PM »
Powering up shots should be fairly balanced.  It's a logarithmic scale, so you have to spend a great deal more nrg to get a shot 8x normal.

Hadn't thought about birth ties.  Can anyone experiment deleting it without producing a new tie?

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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2008, 01:59:32 PM »
I think .deltie inc should do it... I used that in the Neural Network evo bot I was running to avoid tie bots from evolving... and it seemed to break birth ties imediatly aswell...

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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2008, 07:10:13 PM »
Confirmed. The birth tie has tie phase 1 in the offspring, but tie phase 0 in the parent. The offspring seems to be able to use it like a regular soft tie. (feeding, etc)
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2008, 07:43:47 PM »
I can go either way on birth ties.  It might be interesting to have birth ties be more than just a random hurdle that bots have to overcome.  If you're a fast reproducing bot, you either waste lots of nrg fighting the birth ties or you wait it out until the birth ties disappears.

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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2008, 08:26:56 PM »
 
Why not use the birth tie so parents can drag offspring to veggie sources?
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