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Numsgil:
That would work.  Would bots have to give up some of their own mass when they form a shot?  Or do we assume a sort of magic mass-is-created-from-nrg when a shot is formed?  Not that conservation of mass doesn't necessarily apply in the bots' universe anyway.

rsucoop:

--- Quote from: Numsgil ---That would work.  Would bots have to give up some of their own mass when they form a shot?  Or do we assume a sort of magic mass-is-created-from-nrg when a shot is formed?  Not that conservation of mass doesn't necessarily apply in the bots' universe anyway.
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E=mc^2

So it can be assumed that even if energy was used, the mass would be there in a small form. It might be easier to say that a -6 body shot produces a massed shot, since it takes away mass from the bot. But how would this effect the planet-eater mode?

shvarz:

--- Quote ---Would bots have to give up some of their own mass when they form a shot?
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Isn't energy used to calculate bot's mass?  If not then it should be.  Thus a bot spending energy on a shot would loose some mass. Although I would not go so far as to make it a "realistic" conversion, I.e. a shot should have more mass than what a bot spent on its creation in energy. Otherwise this method of propulsion would be extremely inefficient and expensive.

rsucoop:

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--- Quote ---Would bots have to give up some of their own mass when they form a shot?
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Isn't energy used to calculate bot's mass?  If not then it should be.  Thus a bot spending energy on a shot would loose some mass. Although I would not go so far as to make it a "realistic" conversion, I.e. a shot should have more mass than what a bot spent on its creation in energy. Otherwise this method of propulsion would be extremely inefficient and expensive.

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I cannot agree with you on that. I like having the dietary part of the bot exclusively gene activated. And unless you commit millions in energy, the amount of mass going into a shot is insignifigant with relations to energy-mass transfer.

EricL:
In the current code, nrg has no mass.  Body and shell are the only substances with mass.  Thus a bot can change it's mass by making shell or converting nrg to body and back.  This is what Num's means when he says conservation of nrg/mass doesn't apply.

As a strawman proposal, I might make nrg shots have mass equivalent to if their contained nrg was converted to body.  Bot's could generate quite a propulsion kick by keeping their own body and shell stores small and shooting.  It would be easy to shoot a shot more massive than the bot that shot it.  Of course there is a cost to doing this in the form of lost nrg.  Impact adds both the nrg as well as the inertia to the impacted bot.

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