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Pacifist (5G) (Moonfisher) 19-02-08

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rsucoop:

--- Quote from: Moonfisher ---Lol, it just hit me... it's only 4 genes... not 5....
I was thinking of isolating the tie comands in a seperate gene, but then I read the rest of that post about storing in mem loc 0 and figured there was no point since there are no costs involved unless the command is executed...
Guess it's too late to change the name now...
I guess I'll have to make a version 0.02 and either label it 4G or add a gene
Won't have time for it for a while, and I may aswell wait for someone to beat it before making any hanges... if it ain't broke...
I'd rather play around trying to make an alge for IM then... although it seems like alge are realy overpowered, the only downside is the max to the pop count which inhibits evolution, but shrinking violet seems to manage just fine...
Still seems like whatever I'm doing with IM sin't working right, tryed deleting the pop files manualy and stuff like that.... still just got the exact same files back...
Everything is just standing still in there... sais there are 16 sims, but the only changes I can see are from my own species count or the one on computers on the same network as me... got no clue whats wrong at this point....
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Interesting Bot. I ran it against 4 other species, Slim Evo 3-2, Ant-5, Excalibur and I_Flammas. They ok until any predator came by, Excalibur is to tough to destroy without tactical genes, so I can see how it was destroyed by it, Ant-5 didn't really pay any attention to it, because my Slim Evos went cancerous on me and started hunting everything they didn't recognize; their memory genes had failed so they killed half the total population. Pacifist survived. Nicely done.

One nice thing noted, was that Slim Evo 3-2 and Pacifist sexualy reproduced, or My bot raped your bot. THe offspring had your three genes and the 360 Eye System.

Moonfisher:
If you run it in F1 league mode against Excalibur, it should definately beat it...
If Excalibur is winning against Pacifist there must be something wrong, it can't be under normal F1 conditions with mutations disabled...
I've run about 100 fights with pacifist against Excalibur.... Pacifist has never lost.... in fact Pacifist has never lost against anything that I've seen... not even once...
I admit the fight can take ages against some of the less agressive oponents, but I've never seen it loose.

Moonfisher:
Oh right, and it's good to hear the Pacifist is getting laid

I'll run more tests, but I'm almost positive you must have had mutations enabled or something (Pacifist completely falls appart if it mutates).
A good way to verify if it's working correct is to check that it reaches 159-160 units from the first 5 spawned pacifists.

Moonfisher:
Hmmm, ran it against Excalibur a few times, doesn't realy seem like Excalibur has a chance.
I tryed activating mutations on Pacifist and it still managed to beat Excalibur even though it's code is broken down rather fast since each of the 5 starting bots reproduces into 32 specimens...
Either I've been running the wrong kind of environment all this time, or you did something different in your end...
I would think I have standard F1 conditions, since they should be set automaticaly when you enable the league.

I'm still curious to hear what kind of environment allows Excalibur to beat Pacifist though...
I know it completely falls appart from mutation, but if there's an environment it has problems with I would like to know so I can tweek it a litle...
And remember, just because it doesn't kill it's adversary it doesn't mean it can't win.
It may be a pacifist, but it knows Thay Chi and doesn't want to share it's food with anyone.
So... eventualy the oponent should die from starvation.

rsucoop:

--- Quote from: Moonfisher ---Hmmm, ran it against Excalibur a few times, doesn't realy seem like Excalibur has a chance.
I tryed activating mutations on Pacifist and it still managed to beat Excalibur even though it's code is broken down rather fast since each of the 5 starting bots reproduces into 32 specimens...
Either I've been running the wrong kind of environment all this time, or you did something different in your end...
I would think I have standard F1 conditions, since they should be set automaticaly when you enable the league.

I'm still curious to hear what kind of environment allows Excalibur to beat Pacifist though...
I know it completely falls appart from mutation, but if there's an environment it has problems with I would like to know so I can tweek it a litle...
And remember, just because it doesn't kill it's adversary it doesn't mean it can't win.
It may be a pacifist, but it knows Thay Chi and doesn't want to share it's food with anyone.
So... eventualy the oponent should die from starvation.
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Wll, Pacifist is a tie feeder, and so is SLim Evo, however Slim Evo is highly territorial; built with a swarm and a few stragglers looking for enemies or food. The Problem pacifist had to begin with, was any time it went towards another veg, a SLim Evo Swarm was already there; so it had to compete with the battery feeding protocol of Slim Evo. One thing I did notice, was that about half the population of Pacifist mutated into random shooters, and sometimes did not fire at excalibur, this meant Excaliburs' darn venom shots hit home most of the time, but your bot is insanely difficult to hit because it starts so small. F1 defaulted conditions, but I did disable all viruses for all species, because I kind of hate viruses; when I ran with viruses, everybot became so infected it was the only gene ative in most cases. I love its competitive edge for veggies, I'm going ot have to make SLim Evo 4 use more tie-related genes on veggies to make sure no one else grabs their food. I even ran without any mutations after this, Pacifist was stronger somewhat, but needs a few more defensive genes. Love the concept, iits like a little bug that goes around taking all your food, and when you go back for it it just shoots off out of sight. Problem encountered here was that SLim Evo was everywhere, darn swarming junkies for food. I had no edges, all sides were warped.

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