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Numsgil:
--- Quote ---I dont know how to mail money too well ,sry.
But:
If we can set up a server someware we are not only hosting the website , we will be able to host the robot ftp sharing as well.
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I was thinking about that too. Let me do some research, see if I can figure it all out.
If you would like to contribute, I think we could set up some kind of paypal type transfer. It really isn't that hard to move money around online if you know how to do it.
Botsareus:
You mean online: like bank account numbers and everything?.
:pokey: forget about it , thats worse then mailing it... If some day you guys actualy get me to send you money, its going to be my own money (for once , not my parants). AND:
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I was thinking turning DarwinBots or FelineSoft into a reguler softwear company one day, with a real networked offise , (with sourcesafe for once). Maybe make some kind of FS corporation, with FelineSoft company , and the (FireSoft) company I will use to sell my space games , (if I ever will).... Anyways thats are all dreams.
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Yep , the next step for us will be to get a server and a domain....
Numsgil:
You don't have a bank account? I honestly don't know what everyone's problem is with banking and stuff. It's almost as good as cash.
"Hello Mr. Bank, will you hold my money for me? In exchange, you can spend most of it right now because I probably won't be withdrawing it all at once anyway. Maybe you acn make some money with it."
"Sure kid. Heh heh."
It's a win-win situation.
I was thinking turning DarwinBots or FelineSoft into a reguler softwear company one day, with a real networked offise , (with sourcesafe for once). Maybe make some kind of FS corporation, with FelineSoft company , and the (FireSoft) company I will use to sell my space games , (if I ever will).... Anyways thats are all dreams.
FelineSoft is... what? You like to introduce new variables without declaring them, don't you :P
Darwinbots will probably never be a company or professional venture because:
1. It's opensource. That means by definition it's free. You can't make money from something that's free
2. No one would pay for an artificial life simulator. It's such a tiny tiny field that most real researchers can't get real grants for AL research. It's probably always going to be that way.
3. It's in Visual Basic. Most real AL stuff has to be able to run in Unix (Visual Basic is windows only). That's just what everyone uses.
And don't you have to actually have a space game to sell a space game? Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
I'm having trouble looking this stuff up because I don't know what to call it.
Here's what I have so far:
A domain name is probably about $10 a year (roughly). I don't think it's much more than a name. No server space, etc. Still not a bad deal.
What would you call a server that allows uploads and downloads with registration? I can't search for it without a name.
That's all we'd need. A simple ftp server that allows people to upload and download periodically. Then we could set it up through the program and allow a distributed simulation.
Numsgil:
Okay, here's what I know:
GoDaddy offers webnames for $9 USD.
All we need for the internet sharing is a teeny tiny section of publically available FTP server. In fact (as I've said before) we could probably just use someone's old home computer.
And I know I'm saying it in vain again. Why do I even bother? Here's what the .txt that comes with Darwinbots says. I know my computer can't do it because I'm under so many layers of routers and firewalls at school it's a miracle I can even download.
--- Quote ---So, if you want to try this, here's how.
1) get an FTP server program. I'm using Cerberus FTP (http://www.cerberusftp.com/), a little, simple and free program. Many people likes also GuildFTPd (http://www.guildftpd.com/), that's also free.
2) create a folder on your HD called darwinftp.
3) configure the server so that darwinftp will be the only folder visible from the root directory. You can configure it for anonymous users or passworded, it's the same.
That's all. Now, if you run DarwinBots and specify the name or the ip address of your server in the internet options tab, DarwinBots will connect to that server to load/save organisms.
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shvarz:
I can't run my home computer continiously - it is a powerful gaming machine, which eats 400kW every hour. Besides, I am not a big beleiver in publicly known FTP sites hosted on an important machine. Usually I am not scared of hackers, but this particular combination gives me the creeps. And not to mention the fact that I am most likely behind firewall of a sort (I thought all internet providers do that? am I wrong?)
Maybe when I buy a comp for my son in a couple of years :)
What about alternatives? Something like a distributed file-sharing network. It would not be real-time, but given enough people it would be almost as good. And some of those file-sharing networks allow very secure connections. Look at the one called Waste.
I guess the important question is why we want to have bot-sharing. What would be the advantage?
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