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a reeeeaaaaaaallll virus
shvarz:
--- Quote ---fulizer's argument is based on real life multicelular infected bodies, not single bots which is what the game emulates.
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You are completely wrong here. A single cell infected with a virus produces large amounts of viruses, which are not released sequentially, but come out en mass. Some viruses keep the cell alive during this release, while others break the cell completely.
rsucoop:
--- Quote from: shvarz ---
--- Quote ---fulizer's argument is based on real life multicelular infected bodies, not single bots which is what the game emulates.
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You are completely wrong here. A single cell infected with a virus produces large amounts of viruses, which are not released sequentially, but come out en mass. Some viruses keep the cell alive during this release, while others break the cell completely.
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With settings like that in the game, viruses would multiple so rapidly that small cale simulations would not work properly if a virus cell was in use, and it had a deadly virus.
googlyeyesultra:
I can already simulate massive viral reproduction by having the infected bot reproduce cancerously (thus producing lots of also infected offspring). The only problem is this too causes the sim to blow up with lag.
Here's the viral code, if you're interested:
--- Code: ---'===========Virus===========
cond
532 *.safety !=
start
1256 rnd .setaim store
*.thisgene .mkvirus store
32000 .vshoot store
50 .repro store
*.maxvel 1 sgn store
*.body 2 < *.nrg 10 > and
.strbody inc
*.thisgene 1 !=
1 .delgene store
*.thisgene *.genes !=
*.genes .delgene store
stop
--- End code ---
--- Quote from: Numsgil ---Maybe forum ranks could be determined from spelling and grammar ability instead of number of posts
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I love this! Institute the awesomeness immediately!
Peter:
--- Quote from: shvarz ---
--- Quote ---Normally with a virus in reality, if the virus reproduces, simply spoken the virus kills the cell and then spreids a lot of virussus around.
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Not necessarily. There are many different strategies viruses use.
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There are?
I thought that in any case, if the virus decides to release itself to the world it kills the cell. I am serious suprised that it isn't true. Does it have a special name when it doesn't kill the cell?
--- Quote ---P.S: Peter, your spelling is pretty awful too, so don't be a smart-mouth
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I am not suprised if my spelling is awful , but it is understandable(is this spelled correct ), atleast I hope so. Read the first post of the topic and then come back and then say you would have completely understand it at first. A spelling mistake wouldn't be that bad, but if I have to read over a few times to get an idea where he is talking about, it is going the wrong way.
shvarz:
--- Quote ---There are?
I thought that in any case, if the virus decides to release itself to the world it kills the cell. I am serious suprised that it isn't true. Does it have a special name when it doesn't kill the cell?
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There is a HUGE variability in viral replicative strategies. They pretty much can do anything we can imagine (as long as it does not break any physical laws:) ).
Yes, there is a special name: It's called persistent infection. It's a pretty general term, which may mean a lot of different things, but it assumes that infected cell is not killed immediately. I'll give you two examples:
Oncoviruses is a general name for viruses that make their host cell cancerous. They turn off the essential check-points in cell cycle and force cells to divide indefinitely. The cells release new viruses, not in huge amounts, but not "one-virus at a time" either. Certainly enough to infect new cells and new hosts.
HIV causes AIDS and is not an oncovirus. Normally it stops cell division and kills the cell within several days. But some strains of this virus don't kill their host cells. Cells feel sick for a couple of days and then recover and start dividing. They shed large amounts of virus all the time, but they continue to grow and divide. In vivo such cells get killed by immune system, but in culture you can keep these cells growing indefinitely.
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