SB-league setup.

[Peter]

At this moment the short-bot league exists out of bots having 6 genes or less. At the moment the F1, F2 and the SB league is dominated by complicated(I can't read them) single genes bots.

I though the idea of the SB-league was to make bots with minimal dna-lenght, so to make bots no longer then needed. Well I though guardain was a little long.

Nothing against  guardian or etch of any other but they already control F1 and F2 the SB-setup is at the moment somewhat unneeded. It isn't of extra value.

Well a simple idea could be(I really think it should be simple otherwise I will not understand it)  

A character limit, bot consists out of maximum  100 characters(just naming a number) instead of the normal 6 genes.

Do you have any better ideas, or a reason why the league as it is has to be kept.

[EricL]

A limit on genome length makes more sense to me than a limit on number of genes given that the new conditionals-in-gene-body paradym dramatically lowers the bar for coding single gene bots.

As we add new Internet modes, one with a genomne length restriction would be easy to implement.

[Numsgil]

Back in the day the DNA was far less flexible.  Coding a short bot that was any good at all was quite a challenge.  I dramatically increased what could be done in DNA in 2.37 or so, and the modern short bots are the result.

I agree, a genome length would be better.  Maybe something like 50 or 75 base pairs, or even shorter.

[Peter]

Ok, I have just looked and genome lenght is about the number of commands(base pairs). In that case I would like to set a limit at something like 150.

I agree, a genome length would be better. Maybe something like 50 or 75 base pairs, or even shorter.

Well, that's a little short(I am proposing the double  ). In short at a limit of 50, your animal minimalis may not participate. Base lenght 56. As the league is right now even a limit of 100 would put many bots out of the league that's why I suggest 150. Much bots in the league are being between the 100 and 150, I am mostly talking about bots who aren't in F1 or F2.

Even at that length much bots will be kicked out of the league, infact the whole top. The whole top6

Here the top 10

1 - Aura (1G)(abyaly)-29.03.2007
2 - Una (1G)(Elite)-23.01.06
3 - The One (1G)(Shen)-23.04.05
4 - Spanish Conquistador (6GVir)(Numsgil)-12.05.05
5 - Two (2GVir)(Endy(Mod)-23.06.05
6 - Furiae (6G)(Light)-21.04.05
7 - Speedy(6GVir)(Peter)-27.06.07
8 - Little Ninja (Henk)-Missing from bestiary
9 - Black flower (Henk)-Missing from bestiary
10- Expletus Unocomplitus (1G)(Jez)-11.03.04

The only ones left will be,
speedy :new ruler(no I didn't do it on purpose)  
8,9 missing
Expletus Unocomplitus(10th place)

For the rest there will be some more droppings from the league,good chance there will be only 10 left.

Probably best if the whole league will be rerun then and thereby taking a few bots from earlier league to fill the empty spots.

What do you all think from a limit of 150bp.

[Peter]

Small update much bots have indeed a dna-lenght between 100 and 150bp, only a few more bots beside the top6 don't comply at this standard. For example vector (place11)bp lenght 1000,wow.

A new league would probably keep more then 20 bots if the standard is 150.

[Numsgil]

150 sounds reasonable.