Complications...

[Numsgil]

PY, could you contact Carlo?  Is he even alive at all?

He's only posted once since I joined.

I know alot of fun we could have with the DB homepage.  Set up a coop team of people to work on it.

[PurpleYouko]

Yes it could be worth a shot. I will send him an email.

 :D  PY  :D

[k0zm0]

And now somethink completly different!
Let me explain myself...

Kozmo, why are you pissed off? The idea to go in the direction of enzymes was accepted together by all people on the board. You've never raised your voice to argue against it. Were we supposed to guess that you'll be pissed off?

If you want your opinion heard, simply state it. People listen.

I thought, why bother?

K0zmo, you were the one to suggest O2 and CO2 in the first place!

I did, and as I've been told (not directly!!!), the air wasn't that important, so it should be in the backround. Just think of it it's there... That I didn't like... And I still don't like it now...

I understand k0zmo's irritation. The next DB version will be a lot more complex, and without proper documentation it will 'bounce off' "newbies" because of it's sheer complexity..

newbie? newbie? I'm sticking with DB since version 1.0

Anyway, all of you are missing my point... When you add new things to DB, dont make it too complicated, make it simple... Why must be there so many enzymes?
when setting what bot is going to eat, the program could autoselect enzymes ...

[Zelos]

it shall be many to give many options, you want to eat many kinds of food, not just 1 all the time right?

[PurpleYouko]

Anyway, all of you are missing my point... When you add new things to DB, dont make it too complicated, make it simple... Why must be there so many enzymes?
when setting what bot is going to eat, the program could autoselect enzymes ...

Don't get al worried about this. Your point is exactly what I have been fighting for all the way through the discussion.
I like it simple but only where the programmer/DNA code actually interfaces with the program. Behind the scenes where everything is calculated, it needs to be as complex as possible so that many more options and specializations are available through evolution or very clever coding of DNA.

The bit you will see in the robot DNA file will not be changed a huge amount. Only a couple of extra controls and even those are optional. There is no intention to need to control each and every enzyme manually. They will be autoselected to some degree but with the provision of DNA/manual override to increase efficiency if you want to get into that.

[Numsgil]

At first I was against O2 and CO2 because I thought they were entirely pointless.

However, as I delved into the metabolic systems, I realized some are oxygen dependant, some are anerobic, and some are eoxygen poisoned.  So O2 at least is needed to really help add distinct niches.

And if you have O2, you might as well add CO2.

[k0zm0]

What about other materia?
How's the progress?

[Old Henk]

K0zmo said

newbie? newbie? I'm sticking with DB since version 1.0

That remark wasn't intented for you, sorry if it appeared to be so...  :unsure:

[PurpleYouko]

And if you have O2, you might as well add CO2.

Too right. You can't have plants, and photosynthisis without CO2. They need the Carbon to build their bodies.