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New molecules vs new properties

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shvarz:
OK :)

What about shell?

And also many bots now have genes like

start
50 .venom store
stop

I want to make venom, poison, shell and slime into molecules, meaning that these genes will have to be:

start
venom
make
stop

Can it be made that both notations are understood?  So that old bots would still work?  The value (50) would have to be discarded, because in metabolism the amount of things created will depend on enzyme efficiency and such...

PurpleYouko:
In this case I don't think the old system would make sense since .strvenom is actually a label representing a memory location. Without the 50, the program would just attempt to store the last number on the stack, into .strvenom.

The memloc represented by .strvenom would have to have some value or else the routine that makes venom will not be called at all.

However I begin to see a possible way around this using your make commands in combination with the existing sysvars. Some modifications to the existing DNA files for venom using bots would be inevitable but hopefully we can keep thm minor.

a gene like


--- Code: ---cond
*.venom 50 <
start
.strvenom make
stop
--- End code ---
would replace

--- Code: ---cond
*.venom 50 <
start
50 .strvenom store
stop
--- End code ---

Updating old bots will not be too hard but the new versions of robots will not work in older sims though.

I also agree that we need to allow for multiple types of shell which can be handled in a similar way with the efficiency of the defined reaction governing the rate at which they can be built.
We need Silicate, Calcium, Chitin (this is different than Calcium), certain proteins.
Same for slime. We can probably have several different formulations of it. Maybe even custom bit pattern formulations made by different reactions.

Incidentally I don't think we should limit the new stuff to only things which nature has produced. Silicon based life forms should be possible  :lol:

 :D  PY  :D

Old Henk:

--- Quote ---Incidentally I don't think we should limit the new stuff to only things which nature has produced. Silicon based life forms should be possible laugh.gif
--- End quote ---

That's why I'm still pro-'cloak' :)  (1st post on this thread: Thread

Numsgil:
The only reason to have more than one type of shell is, of course, if they have different properties.

If you're shot with a -6 shot you may only want to protect your nrg and body, and not worry about other things.  So maybe you only have shell types that protect against those things.

PurpleYouko:
Num

Check out this earlier response of mine.

In it is outlined a proposal for a new form of shot system for -6 shots in which they become custom feeding shots.

Different shells can protect from different enzymes. Maybe we need a special enzyme to actually break through a shell chemically in order to get at the meat inside.

-1 shots are just mechanical chomping. They get a bit of everything including whatever shell is there.

 :D  PY   :D

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