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MB league rules

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Numsgil:
This is a though one.  Think of something like Light's Helios.  It's just 4 bots that form a truss and all shoot in different directions.  It's rather effective (or was anyway).  Specialization isn't something we can use then.

Structure might be a candidate, but it's too hard to define a ruleset that isn't biased against future forms of "life".

Instead of a hard and fast rule, I think we should just judge individual entries using some common sense.  As long as the bot sticks to the spirit of a MB (cooperation between joined entities), it should be passable.

In the future, when the physics can handle it, I'd say make the MB league such that .up, .dn, .dx and .sx don't work (bang efficiency = 0).  Then the only way bots could move around would be to form some sort of MB.

Jez:
Would be nice to have something like that (bang efficiency = 0). In the meantime, having run a bot in the MB league today and seeing how some of the other entries work I'm going to make that first rule even simpler...

MB league rule:
Feeding genes must have *.multi 0 != as condition

The reason for asking this is simply so I don't have to study the code or watch the bot on screen when it is entered into the league.
The reason for not wanting MB's to be able to feed as single celled units is that it gives them a massive initial advantage - even if they do turn into MB's later on in life.

Peter:
So all I have to do is make a hardened tie with a veggie, then I am a multibot and I can feed through the tie. I'd vote against this rule. Too simple I don think this will work.

Jez:
Try it!

The MB league is quite old now, it hasn't really had many bots entered and with the current problems that v2.43 is causing tie bots it's about time we had a mass extinction event for the MB league.  

If your bot manages to get to the top of the MB league then that's just going to encourage other people to challenge you. If other people challenge you then that's likely to be using different methods. Once we have a few different methods of being a MB fighting it out in the league then we'll get a better idea of how the game is balanced with regards to multi cell bots and can make future changes with that in mind.


Botumor, the bot that stopped the bot I was running through the MB league earlier (Originaloc) didn't even seem to bother about that rule!

When there are lots of bots in the league and we can see what the balance is I'd suggest that that's the time to tighten the rules a bit more.

I think the league with the most rules at the moment is the F2 league, that has two rules... ((IIRC)No ties, no viruses).

Numsgil:
If you want to stick with the spirit of the MB league, try making a bot without .up, .dn, .sx or .dx being written to anywhere in your code.

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