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Excess nrg -> body, excess body -> death
Jez:
Eric suggested 10k waste limit.
That fudged eye ref completely wastes Blue on Blues delgene chameleon tactic
EricL:
--- Quote from: Jez ---That fudged eye ref completely wastes Blue on Blues delgene chameleon tactic
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Happy to turn it off if people like. It's kind of a big hack. IMHO, using *.refeye/*.myeye as a means of conspec recognition strikes me as brittle, lazy programming. Writing some special value to .out1 might be better. Species spoofing strikes me as a totally valid tactic and reason for bot authors to get even more sophisticated in this sapce.
Jez:
It brings to mind, what should a bot use for species ID and how much should we allow confusion? Greenbeards by Haig? The Altruism thingy, in the same way it was suggested that bots' point of reference should be specific not exact. What should be the bots POV? What is the biological comparison?
Bots should be allowed species (greenbeard) ID but chameleons exist so how to model them as well?
shvarz:
What should be the bots POV? What is the biological comparison?
No simple solutions here. Organisms use many different criteria to define "own species". Some don't care at all. Some use very complicated visual and behavioral clues. Actually, comparing number of eye commands is probably very close to the real biological situation for higher animals. If only bots could compare other things as well... Theoretically, they should be able to check on almost any property of a genome and come up with their own definitions of "their species".
EricL:
--- Quote from: shvarz ---Actually, comparing number of eye commands is probably very close to the real biological situation for higher animals.
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I'd love to hear more on this as it does not strike me as anything like what biological organisms do. I would think they inspect relativly accessable morphological traits - color, size, plumage, scent, behaviour - rather than peering into the genetic code of another organism and determining how many of a specific base pair sequence it has in it's genome....
Equivalents in DB might be eye angles and widths, the values of the .out sysvars, movement speed, spin rate, size, mass, amount of body, navigational behaviour, whether it has ties or is shooting, color if we had it, etc. I would consider each of these a morphological trait, relatively accessable to other organisms. But relying upon the specifc way a bot's DNA is coded, makign a conspec determination on whether it uses *.eye5 as opposed to *505, I don't get how that parallels biology at all.
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